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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 09:02:19 +0800
From: Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
To: Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@...ux.alibaba.com>
Cc: netdev@...r.kernel.org, "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>, Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@...nel.org>, John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>,
virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org, bpf@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v1 00/19] virtio-net: support AF_XDP zero copy
On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 3:00 PM Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@...ux.alibaba.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 14:26:01 +0800, Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 2:17 PM Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@...ux.alibaba.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 13:27:47 +0800, Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:28 AM Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:26 AM Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@...ux.alibaba.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 11:20:41 +0800, Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:11 AM Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@...ux.alibaba.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 17 Oct 2023 10:53:44 +0800, Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 8:00 PM Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@...ux.alibaba.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ## AF_XDP
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > XDP socket(AF_XDP) is an excellent bypass kernel network framework. The zero
> > > > > > > > > > copy feature of xsk (XDP socket) needs to be supported by the driver. The
> > > > > > > > > > performance of zero copy is very good. mlx5 and intel ixgbe already support
> > > > > > > > > > this feature, This patch set allows virtio-net to support xsk's zerocopy xmit
> > > > > > > > > > feature.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > At present, we have completed some preparation:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 1. vq-reset (virtio spec and kernel code)
> > > > > > > > > > 2. virtio-core premapped dma
> > > > > > > > > > 3. virtio-net xdp refactor
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So it is time for Virtio-Net to complete the support for the XDP Socket
> > > > > > > > > > Zerocopy.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Virtio-net can not increase the queue num at will, so xsk shares the queue with
> > > > > > > > > > kernel.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, Virtio-Net does not support generate interrupt from driver
> > > > > > > > > > manually, so when we wakeup tx xmit, we used some tips. If the CPU run by TX
> > > > > > > > > > NAPI last time is other CPUs, use IPI to wake up NAPI on the remote CPU. If it
> > > > > > > > > > is also the local CPU, then we wake up napi directly.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This patch set includes some refactor to the virtio-net to let that to support
> > > > > > > > > > AF_XDP.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ## performance
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ENV: Qemu with vhost-user(polling mode).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Sockperf: https://github.com/Mellanox/sockperf
> > > > > > > > > > I use this tool to send udp packet by kernel syscall.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > xmit command: sockperf tp -i 10.0.3.1 -t 1000
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I write a tool that sends udp packets or recvs udp packets by AF_XDP.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > | Guest APP CPU |Guest Softirq CPU | UDP PPS
> > > > > > > > > > ------------------|---------------|------------------|------------
> > > > > > > > > > xmit by syscall | 100% | | 676,915
> > > > > > > > > > xmit by xsk | 59.1% | 100% | 5,447,168
> > > > > > > > > > recv by syscall | 60% | 100% | 932,288
> > > > > > > > > > recv by xsk | 35.7% | 100% | 3,343,168
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Any chance we can get a testpmd result (which I guess should be better
> > > > > > > > > than PPS above)?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Do you mean testpmd + DPDK + AF_XDP?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes. This is probably better because my tool does more work. That is not a
> > > > > > > > complete testing tool used by our business.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Probably, but it would be appealing for others. Especially considering
> > > > > > > DPDK supports AF_XDP PMD now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OK.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let me try.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But could you start to review firstly?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, it's in my todo list.
> > > >
> > > > Speaking too fast, I think if it doesn't take too long time, I would
> > > > wait for the result first as netdim series. One reason is that I
> > > > remember claims to be only 10% to 20% loss comparing to wire speed, so
> > > > I'd expect it should be much faster. I vaguely remember, even a vhost
> > > > can gives us more than 3M PPS if we disable SMAP, so the numbers here
> > > > are not as impressive as expected.
> > >
> > >
> > > What is SMAP? Cloud you give me more info?
> >
> > Supervisor Mode Access Prevention
> >
> > Vhost suffers from this.
> >
> > >
> > > So if we think the 3M as the wire speed, you expect the result
> > > can reach 2.8M pps/core, right?
> >
> > It's AF_XDP that claims to be 80% if my memory is correct. So a
> > correct AF_XDP implementation should not sit behind this too much.
> >
> > > Now the recv result is 2.5M(2463646) pps/core.
> > > Do you think there is a huge gap?
> >
> > You never describe your testing environment in details. For example,
> > is this a virtual environment? What's the CPU model and frequency etc.
> >
> > Because I never see a NIC whose wire speed is 3M.
> >
> > >
> > > My tool makes udp packet and lookup route, so it take more much cpu.
> >
> > That's why I suggest you to test raw PPS.
>
> OK. Let's align some info.
>
> 1. My test env is vhost-user. Qemu + vhost-user(polling mode).
> I do not use the DPDK, because that there is some trouble for me.
> I use the VAPP (https://github.com/fengidri/vapp) as the vhost-user device.
> That has two threads all are busy mode for tx and rx.
> tx thread consumes the tx ring and drop the packet.
> rx thread put the packet to the rx ring.
>
> 2. My Host CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) Platinum 8163 CPU @ 2.50GHz
>
> 3. From this http://fast.dpdk.org/doc/perf/DPDK_23_03_Intel_virtio_performance_report.pdf
> I think we can align that the vhost max speed is 8.5 MPPS.
> Is that ok?
Let's have an apple to apple comparison.
Firstly, I would test AF_XDP on virtio-net hardware which I guess you
should have some. Then we don't need any test as baseline but the wire
speed.
Secondly, if it can't be done, let's do something much more simple:
1) Boot Qemu with vhost-user and wire it to testpmd
2) Testing
2.1) virtio PMD in guest with testpmd
2.2) AF_XDP PMD in guest with testpmd
Then let's compare.
Thanks
> And the expected AF_XDP pps is about 6 MPPS.
>
> 4. About the raw PPS, I agree that. I will test with testpmd.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > >
> > > I am confused.
> > >
> > >
> > > What is SMAP? Could you give me more information?
> > >
> > > So if we use 3M as the wire speed, you would expect the result to be 2.8M
> > > pps/core, right?
> > >
> > > Now the recv result is 2.5M (2463646 = 3,343,168/1.357) pps/core. Do you think
> > > the difference is big?
> > >
> > > My tool makes udp packets and looks up routes, so it requires more CPU.
> > >
> > > I'm confused. Is there something I misunderstood?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What I noticed is that the hotspot is the driver writing virtio desc. Because
> > > > > > > > the device is in busy mode. So there is race between driver and device.
> > > > > > > > So I modified the virtio core and lazily updated avail idx. Then pps can reach
> > > > > > > > 10,000,000.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Care to post a draft for this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > YES, I is thinking for this.
> > > > > > But maybe that is just work for split. The packed mode has some troubles.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ## maintain
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I am currently a reviewer for virtio-net. I commit to maintain AF_XDP support in
> > > > > > > > > > virtio-net.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Please review.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > v1:
> > > > > > > > > > 1. remove two virtio commits. Push this patchset to net-next
> > > > > > > > > > 2. squash "virtio_net: virtnet_poll_tx support rescheduled" to xsk: support tx
> > > > > > > > > > 3. fix some warnings
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Xuan Zhuo (19):
> > > > > > > > > > virtio_net: rename free_old_xmit_skbs to free_old_xmit
> > > > > > > > > > virtio_net: unify the code for recycling the xmit ptr
> > > > > > > > > > virtio_net: independent directory
> > > > > > > > > > virtio_net: move to virtio_net.h
> > > > > > > > > > virtio_net: add prefix virtnet to all struct/api inside virtio_net.h
> > > > > > > > > > virtio_net: separate virtnet_rx_resize()
> > > > > > > > > > virtio_net: separate virtnet_tx_resize()
> > > > > > > > > > virtio_net: sq support premapped mode
> > > > > > > > > > virtio_net: xsk: bind/unbind xsk
> > > > > > > > > > virtio_net: xsk: prevent disable tx napi
> > > > > > > > > > virtio_net: xsk: tx: support tx
> > > > > > > > > > virtio_net: xsk: tx: support wakeup
> > > > > > > > > > virtio_net: xsk: tx: virtnet_free_old_xmit() distinguishes xsk buffer
> > > > > > > > > > virtio_net: xsk: tx: virtnet_sq_free_unused_buf() check xsk buffer
> > > > > > > > > > virtio_net: xsk: rx: introduce add_recvbuf_xsk()
> > > > > > > > > > virtio_net: xsk: rx: introduce receive_xsk() to recv xsk buffer
> > > > > > > > > > virtio_net: xsk: rx: virtnet_rq_free_unused_buf() check xsk buffer
> > > > > > > > > > virtio_net: update tx timeout record
> > > > > > > > > > virtio_net: xdp_features add NETDEV_XDP_ACT_XSK_ZEROCOPY
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > MAINTAINERS | 2 +-
> > > > > > > > > > drivers/net/Kconfig | 8 +-
> > > > > > > > > > drivers/net/Makefile | 2 +-
> > > > > > > > > > drivers/net/virtio/Kconfig | 13 +
> > > > > > > > > > drivers/net/virtio/Makefile | 8 +
> > > > > > > > > > drivers/net/{virtio_net.c => virtio/main.c} | 652 +++++++++-----------
> > > > > > > > > > drivers/net/virtio/virtio_net.h | 359 +++++++++++
> > > > > > > > > > drivers/net/virtio/xsk.c | 545 ++++++++++++++++
> > > > > > > > > > drivers/net/virtio/xsk.h | 32 +
> > > > > > > > > > 9 files changed, 1247 insertions(+), 374 deletions(-)
> > > > > > > > > > create mode 100644 drivers/net/virtio/Kconfig
> > > > > > > > > > create mode 100644 drivers/net/virtio/Makefile
> > > > > > > > > > rename drivers/net/{virtio_net.c => virtio/main.c} (91%)
> > > > > > > > > > create mode 100644 drivers/net/virtio/virtio_net.h
> > > > > > > > > > create mode 100644 drivers/net/virtio/xsk.c
> > > > > > > > > > create mode 100644 drivers/net/virtio/xsk.h
> > > > > > > > > >
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