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Message-ID: <CAA93jw4ZmG3A=20SpeXZeFP=4Xf=oAuK+tjwZrPR6zwtHdi9vg@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2023 00:20:06 -0700
From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@...il.com>
To: Sunil Kovvuri <sunil.kovvuri@...il.com>
Cc: "Nambiar, Amritha" <amritha.nambiar@...el.com>, Hariprasad Kelam <hkelam@...vell.com>, 
	Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@...atatu.com>, 
	"sridhar.samudrala@...el.com" <sridhar.samudrala@...el.com>, 
	"netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, 
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, "kuba@...nel.org" <kuba@...nel.org>, 
	Sunil Kovvuri Goutham <sgoutham@...vell.com>, "edumazet@...gle.com" <edumazet@...gle.com>, 
	"pabeni@...hat.com" <pabeni@...hat.com>, "xiyou.wangcong@...il.com" <xiyou.wangcong@...il.com>, 
	"jiri@...nulli.us" <jiri@...nulli.us>, "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>
Subject: Re: [net-next] net: sched: extend flow action with RSS

On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 10:53 PM Sunil Kovvuri <sunil.kovvuri@...il.com> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 1:43 AM Nambiar, Amritha
> <amritha.nambiar@...el.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 2:12 AM Hariprasad Kelam <hkelam@...vell.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> This patch extends current flow action with RSS, such that the user
> > >>> can install flower offloads with action RSS followed by a group id.
> > >>> Since this is done in hardware skip_sw flag is enforced.
> > >>
> > >> Our typical rule for TC is we need s/w equivalence for offloads. How would
> > >> this work in absence of offload?
> > >>
> > > [Hari]
> > > Our typical rule for TC is we need s/w equivalence for offloads. How would this work in absence of offload?
> > >
> > > This patch we added as an extension to receive queue selection in hardware.
> > > This patch "act_skbedit: skbedit queue mapping for receive queue" enabled receive queue selection in hardware
> > > and skip_sw is enforced.
> > >
> > > Adding stakeholders of this patch, to get their opinion.
> > > sridhar.samudrala@...el.com  amritha.nambiar@...el.com
> > >
> > > incase of RSS, hardware makes decisions about incoming packets before they are even received in the queue.

Is there any way to do a LPM to queue match on inbound?

> > >
> >
> > The skip_sw for skbedit receive queue action was enforced as the only
> > other alternative was a new hw-only action, or changing the action
> > mirred. See discussion at
> > https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20220921132929.3f4ca04d@kernel.org/
> >
> > Few questions WRT this patch:
> > How are the rss groups created? ethtool rss contexts? Any reason to use
> > TC to direct to rss contexts over using ethtool context ids?
> >
>
> Yes, RSS groups are created using ethtool.
> Ethtool ntuple is very limited in expressing flow rules and since the
> general direction
> is to use 'TC', we are attempting to add RSS action to 'TC'.
>
>
> > IIUC, skbedit is meant to only edit skb metadata such as mark, packet
> > type, queue mapping, priority etc. Even if this is a HW only action and
> > has no use in the stack, would skbedit be the right fit here?
> >
>
> The thought was to keep related actions like RQ, RSS group etc under
> one action ie skbedit.
> If that's not the right place we can add a separate action.
>
> Thanks,
> Sunil.
>


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