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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2023 16:14:55 -0800
From: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@...gle.com>
To: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@...il.com>
Cc: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@...gle.com>, David Ahern <dsahern@...nel.org>, netdev@...r.kernel.org, 
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-arch@...r.kernel.org, 
	linux-kselftest@...r.kernel.org, linux-media@...r.kernel.org, 
	dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org, linaro-mm-sig@...ts.linaro.org, 
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, 
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>, 
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@...nel.org>, Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@...aro.org>, 
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>, Shuah Khan <shuah@...nel.org>, Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@...aro.org>, 
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@....com>, Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@...gle.com>, 
	Jeroen de Borst <jeroendb@...gle.com>, Praveen Kaligineedi <pkaligineedi@...gle.com>, 
	Willem de Bruijn <willemb@...gle.com>, Kaiyuan Zhang <kaiyuanz@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 09/12] net: add support for skbs with unreadable frags

On 11/06, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 3:55 PM Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@...gle.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 3:27 PM Mina Almasry <almasrymina@...gle.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 2:59 PM Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@...gle.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 11/06, Mina Almasry wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 1:59 PM Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@...gle.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 11/06, Mina Almasry wrote:
> > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 11:34 AM David Ahern <dsahern@...nel.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 11/6/23 11:47 AM, Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On 11/05, Mina Almasry wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> For device memory TCP, we expect the skb headers to be available in host
> > > > > > > > >> memory for access, and we expect the skb frags to be in device memory
> > > > > > > > >> and unaccessible to the host. We expect there to be no mixing and
> > > > > > > > >> matching of device memory frags (unaccessible) with host memory frags
> > > > > > > > >> (accessible) in the same skb.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Add a skb->devmem flag which indicates whether the frags in this skb
> > > > > > > > >> are device memory frags or not.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> __skb_fill_page_desc() now checks frags added to skbs for page_pool_iovs,
> > > > > > > > >> and marks the skb as skb->devmem accordingly.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Add checks through the network stack to avoid accessing the frags of
> > > > > > > > >> devmem skbs and avoid coalescing devmem skbs with non devmem skbs.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Signed-off-by: Willem de Bruijn <willemb@...gle.com>
> > > > > > > > >> Signed-off-by: Kaiyuan Zhang <kaiyuanz@...gle.com>
> > > > > > > > >> Signed-off-by: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@...gle.com>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> ---
> > > > > > > > >>  include/linux/skbuff.h | 14 +++++++-
> > > > > > > > >>  include/net/tcp.h      |  5 +--
> > > > > > > > >>  net/core/datagram.c    |  6 ++++
> > > > > > > > >>  net/core/gro.c         |  5 ++-
> > > > > > > > >>  net/core/skbuff.c      | 77 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
> > > > > > > > >>  net/ipv4/tcp.c         |  6 ++++
> > > > > > > > >>  net/ipv4/tcp_input.c   | 13 +++++--
> > > > > > > > >>  net/ipv4/tcp_output.c  |  5 ++-
> > > > > > > > >>  net/packet/af_packet.c |  4 +--
> > > > > > > > >>  9 files changed, 115 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> diff --git a/include/linux/skbuff.h b/include/linux/skbuff.h
> > > > > > > > >> index 1fae276c1353..8fb468ff8115 100644
> > > > > > > > >> --- a/include/linux/skbuff.h
> > > > > > > > >> +++ b/include/linux/skbuff.h
> > > > > > > > >> @@ -805,6 +805,8 @@ typedef unsigned char *sk_buff_data_t;
> > > > > > > > >>   *  @csum_level: indicates the number of consecutive checksums found in
> > > > > > > > >>   *          the packet minus one that have been verified as
> > > > > > > > >>   *          CHECKSUM_UNNECESSARY (max 3)
> > > > > > > > >> + *  @devmem: indicates that all the fragments in this skb are backed by
> > > > > > > > >> + *          device memory.
> > > > > > > > >>   *  @dst_pending_confirm: need to confirm neighbour
> > > > > > > > >>   *  @decrypted: Decrypted SKB
> > > > > > > > >>   *  @slow_gro: state present at GRO time, slower prepare step required
> > > > > > > > >> @@ -991,7 +993,7 @@ struct sk_buff {
> > > > > > > > >>  #if IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_IP_SCTP)
> > > > > > > > >>      __u8                    csum_not_inet:1;
> > > > > > > > >>  #endif
> > > > > > > > >> -
> > > > > > > > >> +    __u8                    devmem:1;
> > > > > > > > >>  #if defined(CONFIG_NET_SCHED) || defined(CONFIG_NET_XGRESS)
> > > > > > > > >>      __u16                   tc_index;       /* traffic control index */
> > > > > > > > >>  #endif
> > > > > > > > >> @@ -1766,6 +1768,12 @@ static inline void skb_zcopy_downgrade_managed(struct sk_buff *skb)
> > > > > > > > >>              __skb_zcopy_downgrade_managed(skb);
> > > > > > > > >>  }
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> +/* Return true if frags in this skb are not readable by the host. */
> > > > > > > > >> +static inline bool skb_frags_not_readable(const struct sk_buff *skb)
> > > > > > > > >> +{
> > > > > > > > >> +    return skb->devmem;
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > bikeshedding: should we also rename 'devmem' sk_buff flag to 'not_readable'?
> > > > > > > > > It better communicates the fact that the stack shouldn't dereference the
> > > > > > > > > frags (because it has 'devmem' fragments or for some other potential
> > > > > > > > > future reason).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +1.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also, the flag on the skb is an optimization - a high level signal that
> > > > > > > > one or more frags is in unreadable memory. There is no requirement that
> > > > > > > > all of the frags are in the same memory type.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David: maybe there should be such a requirement (that they all are
> > > > > > unreadable)? Might be easier to support initially; we can relax later
> > > > > > on.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently devmem == not_readable, and the restriction is that all the
> > > > > frags in the same skb must be either all readable or all unreadable
> > > > > (all devmem or all non-devmem).
> > > > >
> > > > > > > The flag indicates that the skb contains all devmem dma-buf memory
> > > > > > > specifically, not generic 'not_readable' frags as the comment says:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > + *     @devmem: indicates that all the fragments in this skb are backed by
> > > > > > > + *             device memory.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The reason it's not a generic 'not_readable' flag is because handing
> > > > > > > off a generic not_readable skb to the userspace is semantically not
> > > > > > > what we're doing. recvmsg() is augmented in this patch series to
> > > > > > > return a devmem skb to the user via a cmsg_devmem struct which refers
> > > > > > > specifically to the memory in the dma-buf. recvmsg() in this patch
> > > > > > > series is not augmented to give any 'not_readable' skb to the
> > > > > > > userspace.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > IMHO skb->devmem + an skb_frags_not_readable() as implemented is
> > > > > > > correct. If a new type of unreadable skbs are introduced to the stack,
> > > > > > > I imagine the stack would implement:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. new header flag: skb->newmem
> > > > > > > 2.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > static inline bool skb_frags_not_readable(const struct skb_buff *skb)
> > > > > > > {
> > > > > > >     return skb->devmem || skb->newmem;
> > > > > > > }
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3. tcp_recvmsg_devmem() would handle skb->devmem skbs is in this patch
> > > > > > > series, but tcp_recvmsg_newmem() would handle skb->newmem skbs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You copy it to the userspace in a special way because your frags
> > > > > > are page_is_page_pool_iov(). I agree with David, the skb bit is
> > > > > > just and optimization.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For most of the core stack, it doesn't matter why your skb is not
> > > > > > readable. For a few places where it matters (recvmsg?), you can
> > > > > > double-check your frags (all or some) with page_is_page_pool_iov.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I see, we can do that then. I.e. make the header flag 'not_readable'
> > > > > and check the frags to decide to delegate to tcp_recvmsg_devmem() or
> > > > > something else. We can even assume not_readable == devmem because
> > > > > currently devmem is the only type of unreadable frag currently.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Unrelated: we probably need socket to dmabuf association as well (via
> > > > > > netlink or something).
> > > > >
> > > > > Not sure this is possible. The dma-buf is bound to the rx-queue, and
> > > > > any packets that land on that rx-queue are bound to that dma-buf,
> > > > > regardless of which socket that packet belongs to. So the association
> > > > > IMO must be rx-queue to dma-buf, not socket to dma-buf.
> > > >
> > > > But there is still always 1 dmabuf to 1 socket association (on rx), right?
> > > > Because otherwise, there is no way currently to tell, at recvmsg, which
> > > > dmabuf the received token belongs to.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yes, but this 1 dma-buf to 1 socket association happens because the
> > > user binds the dma-buf to an rx-queue and configures flow steering of
> > > the socket to that rx-queue.
> >
> > It's still fixed and won't change during the socket lifetime, right?
> > And the socket has to know this association; otherwise those tokens
> > are useless since they don't carry anything to identify the dmabuf.
> >
> > I think my other issue with MSG_SOCK_DEVMEM being on recvmsg is that
> > it somehow implies that I have an option of passing or not passing it
> > for an individual system call.
> > If we know that we're going to use dmabuf with the socket, maybe we
> > should move this flag to the socket() syscall?
> >
> > fd = socket(AF_INET6, SOCK_STREAM, SOCK_DEVMEM);
> >
> > ?
> 
> I think it should then be a setsockopt called before any data is
> exchanged, with no change of modifying mode later. We generally use
> setsockopts for the mode of a socket. This use of the protocol field
> in socket() for setting a mode would be novel. Also, it might miss
> passively opened connections, or be overly restrictive: one approach
> for all accepted child sockets.

I was thinking this is similar to SOCK_CLOEXEC or SOCK_NONBLOCK? There
are plenty of bits we can grab. But setsockopt works as well!

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