netdev - Re: [PATCH RFC 3/8] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider

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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 11:31:47 -0400
From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...dia.com>
To: Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@...wei.com>
Cc: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@...gle.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
	davem@...emloft.net, pabeni@...hat.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Willem de Bruijn <willemb@...gle.com>,
	Kaiyuan Zhang <kaiyuanz@...gle.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@...nel.org>,
	Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@...aro.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
	Christian König <christian.koenig@....com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 3/8] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider

On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 07:10:01PM +0800, Yunsheng Lin wrote:
> On 2023/11/15 21:38, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 05:21:02PM +0800, Yunsheng Lin wrote:
> > 
> >>>>> I would expect net stack, page pool, driver still see the 'struct page',
> >>>>> only memory provider see the specific struct for itself, for the above,
> >>>>> devmem memory provider sees the 'struct page_pool_iov'.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The reason I still expect driver to see the 'struct page' is that driver
> >>>>> will still need to support normal memory besides devmem.
> >>>
> >>> I wouldn't say this approach is unreasonable, but it does have to be
> >>> done carefully to isolate the mm. Keeping the struct page in the API
> >>> is going to make this very hard.
> >>
> >> I would expect that most of the isolation is done in page pool, as far as
> >> I can see:
> > 
> > It is the sort of thing that is important enough it should have
> > compiler help via types to prove that it is being done
> > properly. Otherwise it will be full of mistakes over time.
> 
> Yes, agreed.
> 
> I have done something similar as willy has done for some of
> folio conversion as below:

That is not at all what I mean, I mean you should not use
struct page * types at all in code that flows from the _iov version
except via limited accessors that can be audited and have appropriate
assertions.

Just releasing struct page * that is not a struct page * everywhere
without type safety will never be correct long term.

Jason