netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next v7 5/5] net: phy: add Rust Asix PHY driver

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Message-ID: <2023112136-paver-agreed-0bc1@gregkh>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2023 08:12:09 +0100
From: Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>
To: FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@...il.com>
Cc: andrew@...n.ch, aliceryhl@...gle.com, benno.lossin@...ton.me,
	miguel.ojeda.sandonis@...il.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	rust-for-linux@...r.kernel.org, tmgross@...ch.edu,
	wedsonaf@...il.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v7 5/5] net: phy: add Rust Asix PHY driver

On Tue, Nov 21, 2023 at 03:19:39PM +0900, FUJITA Tomonori wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 17:03:30 +0100
> Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch> wrote:
> 
> >> >> +            let _ = dev.init_hw();
> >> >> +            let _ = dev.start_aneg();
> >> > 
> >> > Just to confirm: You want to call `start_aneg` even if `init_hw` returns
> >> > failure? And you want to ignore both errors?
> >> 
> >> Yeah, I tried to implement the exact same behavior in the original C driver.
> > 
> > You probably could check the return values, and it would not make a
> > difference. Also, link_change_notify() is a void function, so you
> > cannot return the error anyway.
> > 
> > These low level functions basically only fail if the hardware is
> > `dead`. You get an -EIO or maybe -TIMEDOUT back. And there is no real
> > recovery. You tend to get such errors during probe and fail the
> > probe. Or maybe if power management is wrong and it has turned a
> > critical clock off. But that is unlikely in this case, we are calling
> > link_change_notify because the PHY has told us something changed
> > recently, so it probably is alive.
> > 
> > I would say part of not checking the return code is also that C does
> > not have the nice feature that Rust has of making very simple to check
> > the return code. That combined with it being mostly pointless for PHY
> > drivers.
> 
> Understood. I'll check the first return value if you prefer. I might
> add WARN_ON_ONCE after Rust supports it.

Please don't, it shouldn't support it, handle errors properly and
return, don't panic machines (remember, the majority of the Linux
systems in the world run panic-on-warn).

thanks,
g
reg k-h