netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next v2 8/8] net: pse-pd: Add PD692x0 PSE controller driver

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Message-ID: <501f671d-4e03-490b-a9d6-e1f39bb99115@sirena.org.uk>
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2023 16:20:10 +0000
From: Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>
To: Köry Maincent <kory.maincent@...tlin.com>
Cc: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@...gutronix.de>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
	Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@...nel.org>,
	Russ Weight <russ.weight@...ux.dev>,
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	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
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	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@...nel.org>,
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	Dent Project <dentproject@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 8/8] net: pse-pd: Add PD692x0 PSE controller
 driver

On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 05:10:00PM +0100, Köry Maincent wrote:
> Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 04:36:10PM +0100, Köry Maincent wrote:
> > > Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org> wrote:  

> > > > OK...  I mean, if they're not using the regulator framework I'm not sure
> > > > it has much impact - there are plenty of internal regulators in devices
> > > > already so it wouldn't be *too* unusual other than the fact that AFAICT
> > > > this is somewhat split between devices within the subsystem?  Neither of
> > > > the messages was super clear.  

> > > PSE Power Interface (which is kind of the RJ45 in PSE world) have similar
> > > functionalities as regulators. We wondered if registering a regulator for
> > > each PSE PI (RJ45 ports) is a good idea. The point is that the PSE
> > > controller driver will be its own regulator consumer.
> > > I can't find any example in Linux with such a case of a driver being a
> > > provider and a consumer of its own regulator. This idea of a regulator
> > > biting its own tail seems weird to me. Maybe it is better to implement the
> > > PSE functionalities even if they are like the regulator functionalities.  

> > Is it at all plausible that a system (perhaps an embedded one) might use
> > something other than PSE?

> Do you mean to supply power to a RJ45 port?

Whatever it is that PSE does.

> This can be done with a simple regulator. In that case we use the pse_regulator
> driver which is a regulator consumer.
> I don't know about other cases. Oleksij do you?

In that case it sounds like you need the split to allow people to
substitute in a non-PSE supply, and everything ought to be doing the
consumer thing?

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