netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next] virtio-net: switch napi

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Message-ID: <CACGkMEthxep1rvWvEmykeevLhOxiSTR1oog_PkYTRCaeavMGSA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2023 10:35:07 +0800
From: Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>
To: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@...il.com>
Cc: Heng Qi <hengqi@...ux.alibaba.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org, 
	virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org, 
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>, "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, 
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>, 
	Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@...ux.alibaba.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] virtio-net: switch napi_tx without downing nic

On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 11:06 PM Willem de Bruijn
<willemdebruijn.kernel@...il.com> wrote:
>
> Heng Qi wrote:
> >
> >
> > 在 2023/12/20 下午10:45, Willem de Bruijn 写道:
> > > Heng Qi wrote:
> > >> virtio-net has two ways to switch napi_tx: one is through the
> > >> module parameter, and the other is through coalescing parameter
> > >> settings (provided that the nic status is down).
> > >>
> > >> Sometimes we face performance regression caused by napi_tx,
> > >> then we need to switch napi_tx when debugging. However, the
> > >> existing methods are a bit troublesome, such as needing to
> > >> reload the driver or turn off the network card.

Why is this troublesome? We don't need to turn off the card, it's just
a toggling of the interface.

This ends up with pretty simple code.

> So try to make
> > >> this update.
> > >>
> > >> Signed-off-by: Heng Qi <hengqi@...ux.alibaba.com>
> > >> Reviewed-by: Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@...ux.alibaba.com>
> > > The commit does not explain why it is safe to do so.
> >
> > virtnet_napi_tx_disable ensures that already scheduled tx napi ends and
> > no new tx napi will be scheduled.
> >
> > Afterwards, if the __netif_tx_lock_bh lock is held, the stack cannot
> > send the packet.
> >
> > Then we can safely toggle the weight to indicate where to clear the buffers.
> >
> > >
> > > The tx-napi weights are not really weights: it is a boolean whether
> > > napi is used for transmit cleaning, or whether packets are cleaned
> > > in ndo_start_xmit.
> >
> > Right.
> >
> > >
> > > There certainly are some subtle issues with regard to pausing/waking
> > > queues when switching between modes.
> >
> > What are "subtle issues" and if there are any, we find them.
>
> A single runtime test is not sufficient to exercise all edge cases.
>
> Please don't leave it to reviewers to establish the correctness of a
> patch.

+1

And instead of trying to do this, it would be much better to optimize
the NAPI performance. Then we can drop the orphan mode.

>
> The napi_tx and non-napi code paths differ in how they handle at least
> the following structures:
>
> 1. skb: non-napi orphans these in ndo_start_xmit. Without napi this is
> needed as delay until the next ndo_start_xmit and thus completion is
> unbounded.
>
> When switching to napi mode, orphaned skbs may now be cleaned by the
> napi handler. This is indeed safe.
>
> When switching from napi to non-napi, the unbound latency resurfaces.
> It is a small edge case, and I think a potentially acceptable risk, if
> the user of this knob is aware of the risk.
>
> 2. virtqueue callback ("interrupt" masking). The non-napi path enables
> the interrupt (disables the mask) when available descriptors falls
> beneath a low watermark, and reenables when it recovers above a high
> watermark. Napi disables when napi is scheduled, and reenables on
> napi complete.
>
> 3. dev_queue->state (QUEUE_STATE_DRV_XOFF). if the ring falls below
> a low watermark, the driver stops the stack for queuing more packets.
> In napi mode, it schedules napi to clean packets. See the calls to
> netif_xmit_stopped, netif_stop_subqueue, netif_start_subqueue and
> netif_tx_wake_queue.
>
> Some if this can be assumed safe by looking at existing analogous
> code, such as the queue stop/start in virtnet_tx_resize.
>
> But that all virtqueue callback and dev_queue->state transitions are
> correct when switching between modes at runtime is not trivial to
> establish, deserves some thought and explanation in the commit
> message.

Thanks