netdev - Re: [PATCH V4 0/5] mlx5 ConnectX control misc driver

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Message-ID: <a3530f16-74ca-4580-a6ed-048a08f23568@kernel.org>
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2024 21:20:03 -0700
From: David Ahern <dsahern@...nel.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...dia.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>, Saeed Mahameed <saeed@...nel.org>,
 Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
 Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
 Leon Romanovsky <leonro@...dia.com>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@...dia.com>,
 Leonid Bloch <lbloch@...dia.com>, Itay Avraham <itayavr@...dia.com>,
 Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@...dia.com>,
 Aron Silverton <aron.silverton@...cle.com>, andrew.gospodarek@...adcom.com,
 linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 0/5] mlx5 ConnectX control misc driver

On 2/15/24 6:10 PM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>>> and given Jason's and co. inability to understand that good fences
>>> make good neighbors it will soon start getting into the netdev stack :|  
>>
>> I seem to recall you saying RDMA shouldn't call any netdev APIs at
>> all. We were unable to agree on where to build the fence for this
>> reason.
> 
> Last time you were calling into the IPsec stack right? It's not just 
> a basic API. IDK how to draw a line, definitely open to suggestions!
> 

In general, each subsystem should focus on proper APIs that other
subsystems can leverage and not worry about how people wire them up.
That NVME, RDMA/IB and io_uring want to re-use the Linux networking
stack is a good thing.