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Message-ID: <20240223144402.GG13330@nvidia.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 10:44:02 -0400
From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...dia.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@...lab.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] arm64/io: Provide a WC friendly __iowriteXX_copy()

On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 01:52:37PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> > > Since writes get 'posted' all over the place.
> > > How many writes do you need to do before write-combining makes a
> > > difference?
> > 
> > The issue is that the HW can optimize if the entire transaction is
> > presented in one TLP, if it has to reassemble the transaction it takes
> > a big slow path hit.
> 
> Ah, so you aren't optimising to reduce the number of TLP for
> (effectively) a write to a memory buffer, but have a pcie slave
> that really want to see (for example) the writes for a ring buffer
> entry in a single TLP?
> 
> So you really want something that (should) generate a 16 (or 32)
> byte TLP? Rather than abusing the function that is expected to
> generate multiple 8 byte TLP to generate larger TLP.

__iowriteXX_copy() was originally created by Pathscale (an RDMA device
company) to support RDMA drivers doing exactly this workload. It is
not an abuse.

> It is rather a shame that there isn't an efficient way to get
> access to a couple of large SIMD registers.

Yes, userspace uses SIMD to make this work alot better and run faster.

Jason

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