netdev - Re: [RFC net-next 1/4] doc/netlink: Add batch op definitions to netlink-raw schema

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Message-ID: <20240227091348.412a9424@kernel.org>
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 09:13:48 -0800
From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>
To: Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@...il.com>
Cc: netdev@...r.kernel.org, "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Eric
 Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>, Jacob
 Keller <jacob.e.keller@...el.com>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@...nulli.us>, Stanislav
 Fomichev <sdf@...gle.com>, donald.hunter@...hat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 1/4] doc/netlink: Add batch op definitions to
 netlink-raw schema

On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 16:52:40 +0000 Donald Hunter wrote:
> > I'm not familiar with nftables nl. Can you explain what the batch ops
> > are for and how they function?
> >
> > Begin / end makes it sound like some form of a transaction, is it?  
> 
> Yes, it's handled as a transaction, containing multiple messages wrapped
> in BATCH_BEGIN / BATCH_END in a single skb.
> 
> The transaction batching could be implemented without any schema changes
> by just adding multi-message capability to ynl. Then it would be the
> caller's responsibility to specify the right begin / end messages.

That's where I was going with my questions :)
Feels like we need to figure out a nice API at the library level
and/or CLI. That could be more generally useful if anyone wants
to save syscalls.