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Message-ID: <20240507105731.bjCHl0YH@linutronix.de>
Date: Tue, 7 May 2024 12:57:31 +0200
From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@...utronix.de>
To: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@...hat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@...il.com>,
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	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
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	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@...ux.dev>, Song Liu <song@...nel.org>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@...gle.com>,
	Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@...ux.dev>, bpf@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 14/15] net: Reference bpf_redirect_info via
 task_struct on PREEMPT_RT.

On 2024-05-06 21:41:38 [+0200], Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> > On PREEMPT_RT the pointer to bpf_net_context is saved task's
> > task_struct. On non-PREEMPT_RT builds the pointer saved in a per-CPU
> > variable (which is always NODE-local memory). Using always the
> > bpf_net_context approach has the advantage that there is almost zero
> > differences between PREEMPT_RT and non-PREEMPT_RT builds.
> 
> Did you ever manage to get any performance data to see if this has an
> impact?

Not really. I would expect far away memory is more expensive.

I have just a 10G setup and after disabling IOMMU I got the "expected"
packet rate. Since the CPU usage was not 100% I always got that packet
rate. Lowering the CPU clock speed resulted in three (I think) rate
ranges depending on the invocation and I didn't figure out why. Since it
is always a range, I didn't see here if my changes had any impact since
the numbers were roughly the same.

With enabled IOMMU, its overhead was major so again I didn't see any
impact of my changes.

> [...]
> 
> > +static inline struct bpf_net_context *bpf_net_ctx_get(void)
> > +{
> > +	struct bpf_net_context *bpf_net_ctx = this_cpu_read(bpf_net_context);
> > +
> > +	WARN_ON_ONCE(!bpf_net_ctx);
> 
> If we have this WARN...
> 
> > +static inline struct bpf_redirect_info *bpf_net_ctx_get_ri(void)
> > +{
> > +	struct bpf_net_context *bpf_net_ctx = bpf_net_ctx_get();
> > +
> > +	if (!bpf_net_ctx)
> > +		return NULL;
> 
> ... do we really need all the NULL checks?
> 
> (not just here, but in the code below as well).
> 
> I'm a little concerned that we are introducing a bunch of new branches
> in the XDP hot path. Which is also why I'm asking for benchmarks :)

We could hide the WARN behind CONFIG_DEBUG_NET. The only purpose is to
see the backtrace where the context is missing. Having just an error
somewhere will make it difficult to track.

The NULL check is to avoid a crash if the context is missing. You could
argue that this should be noticed in development and never hit
production. If so, then we get the backtrace from NULL-pointer
dereference and don't need the checks and WARN.

> [...]
> 
> > +	/* ri->map is assigned in __bpf_xdp_redirect_map() from within a eBPF
> > +	 * program/ during NAPI callback. It is used during
> > +	 * xdp_do_generic_redirect_map()/ __xdp_do_redirect_frame() from the
> > +	 * redirect callback afterwards. ri->map is cleared after usage.
> > +	 * The path has no explicit RCU read section but the local_bh_disable()
> > +	 * is also a RCU read section which makes the complete softirq callback
> > +	 * RCU protected. This in turn makes ri->map RCU protocted and it is
> 
> s/protocted/protected/
> 
> > +	 * sufficient to wait a grace period to ensure that no "ri->map == map"
> > +	 * exist.  dev_map_free() removes the map from the list and then
> 
> s/exist/exists/

Thank you.

> 
> -Toke

Sebastian

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