Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 23:19:52 +0300
From: Serge Semin <fancer.lancer@...il.com>
To: Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 06/10] dt-bindings: net: Add Synopsys DW xPCS
 bindings

On Thu, Jun 13, 2024 at 09:41:25AM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 01:45:16PM +0300, Serge Semin wrote:
> > Hi Rob
> > 
> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 03:49:16PM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 06, 2024 at 12:54:33PM +0300, Serge Semin wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jun 05, 2024 at 05:29:16PM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, Jun 02, 2024 at 05:36:20PM +0300, Serge Semin wrote:
> > > > > > Synopsys DesignWare XPCS IP-core is a Physical Coding Sublayer (PCS) layer
> > > > > > providing an interface between the Media Access Control (MAC) and Physical
> > > > > > Medium Attachment Sublayer (PMA) through a Media independent interface.
> > > > > > >From software point of view it exposes IEEE std. Clause 45 CSR space and
> > > > > > can be accessible either by MDIO or MCI/APB3 bus interfaces. In the former
> > > > > > case the PCS device is supposed to be defined under the respective MDIO
> > > > > > bus DT-node. In the later case the DW xPCS will be just a normal IO
> > > > > > memory-mapped device.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Besides of that DW XPCS DT-nodes can have an interrupt signal and clock
> > > > > > source properties specified. The former one indicates the Clause 73/37
> > > > > > auto-negotiation events like: negotiation page received, AN is completed
> > > > > > or incompatible link partner. The clock DT-properties can describe up to
> > > > > > three clock sources: peripheral bus clock source, internal reference clock
> > > > > > and the externally connected reference clock.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Finally the DW XPCS IP-core can be optionally synthesized with a
> > > > > > vendor-specific interface connected to the Synopsys PMA (also called
> > > > > > DesignWare Consumer/Enterprise PHY). Alas that isn't auto-detectable in a
> > > > > > portable way. So if the DW XPCS device has the respective PMA attached
> > > > > > then it should be reflected in the DT-node compatible string so the driver
> > > > > > would be aware of the PMA-specific device capabilities (mainly connected
> > > > > > with CSRs available for the fine-tunings).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Serge Semin <fancer.lancer@...il.com>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Changelog v2:
> > > > > > - Drop the Management Interface DT-node bindings. DW xPCS with MCI/APB3
> > > > > >   interface is just a normal memory-mapped device.
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  .../bindings/net/pcs/snps,dw-xpcs.yaml        | 133 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > >  1 file changed, 133 insertions(+)
> > > > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/pcs/snps,dw-xpcs.yaml
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/pcs/snps,dw-xpcs.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/pcs/snps,dw-xpcs.yaml
> > > > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > > > index 000000000000..7927bceefbf3
> > > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/net/pcs/snps,dw-xpcs.yaml
> > > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,133 @@
> > > > > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > > > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > > > > +---
> > > > > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/net/pcs/snps,dw-xpcs.yaml#
> > > > > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +title: Synopsys DesignWare Ethernet PCS
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +maintainers:
> > > > > > +  - Serge Semin <fancer.lancer@...il.com>
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +description:
> > > > > > +  Synopsys DesignWare Ethernet Physical Coding Sublayer provides an interface
> > > > > > +  between Media Access Control and Physical Medium Attachment Sublayer through
> > > > > > +  the Media Independent Interface (XGMII, USXGMII, XLGMII, GMII, etc)
> > > > > > +  controlled by means of the IEEE std. Clause 45 registers set. The PCS can be
> > > > > > +  optionally synthesized with a vendor-specific interface connected to
> > > > > > +  Synopsys PMA (also called DesignWare Consumer/Enterprise PHY) although in
> > > > > > +  general it can be used to communicate with any compatible PHY.
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +  The PCS CSRs can be accessible either over the Ethernet MDIO bus or directly
> > > > > > +  by means of the APB3/MCI interfaces. In the later case the XPCS can be mapped
> > > > > > +  right to the system IO memory space.
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +properties:
> > > > > > +  compatible:
> > > > > > +    oneOf:
> > > > > > +      - description: Synopsys DesignWare XPCS with none or unknown PMA
> > > > > > +        const: snps,dw-xpcs
> > > > > > +      - description: Synopsys DesignWare XPCS with Consumer Gen1 3G PMA
> > > > > > +        const: snps,dw-xpcs-gen1-3g
> > > > > > +      - description: Synopsys DesignWare XPCS with Consumer Gen2 3G PMA
> > > > > > +        const: snps,dw-xpcs-gen2-3g
> > > > > > +      - description: Synopsys DesignWare XPCS with Consumer Gen2 6G PMA
> > > > > > +        const: snps,dw-xpcs-gen2-6g
> > > > > > +      - description: Synopsys DesignWare XPCS with Consumer Gen4 3G PMA
> > > > > > +        const: snps,dw-xpcs-gen4-3g
> > > > > > +      - description: Synopsys DesignWare XPCS with Consumer Gen4 6G PMA
> > > > > > +        const: snps,dw-xpcs-gen4-6g
> > > > > > +      - description: Synopsys DesignWare XPCS with Consumer Gen5 10G PMA
> > > > > > +        const: snps,dw-xpcs-gen5-10g
> > > > > > +      - description: Synopsys DesignWare XPCS with Consumer Gen5 12G PMA
> > > > > > +        const: snps,dw-xpcs-gen5-12g
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +  reg:
> > > > > > +    items:
> > > > > > +      - description:
> > > > > > +          In case of the MDIO management interface this just a 5-bits ID
> > > > > > +          of the MDIO bus device. If DW XPCS CSRs space is accessed over the
> > > > > > +          MCI or APB3 management interfaces, then the space mapping can be
> > > > > > +          either 'direct' or 'indirect'. In the former case all Clause 45
> > > > > > +          registers are contiguously mapped within the address space
> > > > > > +          MMD '[20:16]', Reg '[15:0]'. In the later case the space is divided
> > > > > > +          to the multiple 256 register sets. There is a special viewport CSR
> > > > > > +          which is responsible for the set selection. The upper part of
> > > > > > +          the CSR address MMD+REG[20:8] is supposed to be written in there
> > > > > > +          so the corresponding subset would be mapped to the lowest 255 CSRs.
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +  reg-names:
> > > > > > +    items:
> > > > > > +      - enum: [ direct, indirect ]
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +  reg-io-width:
> > > > > > +    description:
> > > > > > +      The way the CSRs are mapped to the memory is platform depended. Since
> > > > > > +      each Clause 45 CSR is of 16-bits wide the access instructions must be
> > > > > > +      two bytes aligned at least.
> > > > > > +    default: 2
> > > > > > +    enum: [ 2, 4 ]
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +  interrupts:
> > > > > > +    description:
> > > > > > +      System interface interrupt output (sbd_intr_o) indicating Clause 73/37
> > > > > > +      auto-negotiation events':' Page received, AN is completed or incompatible
> > > > > > +      link partner.
> > > > > > +    maxItems: 1
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +  clocks:
> > > > > > +    description:
> > > > > > +      Both MCI and APB3 interfaces are supposed to be equipped with a clock
> > > > > > +      source connected via the clk_csr_i line.
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +      PCS/PMA layer can be clocked by an internal reference clock source
> > > > > > +      (phyN_core_refclk) or by an externally connected (phyN_pad_refclk) clock
> > > > > > +      generator. Both clocks can be supplied at a time.
> > > > > > +    minItems: 1
> > > > > > +    maxItems: 3
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +  clock-names:
> > > > > > +    minItems: 1
> > > > > > +    maxItems: 3
> > > > > > +    anyOf:
> > > > > > +      - items:
> > > > > > +          enum: [ core, pad ]
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > This has no effect. If it is true, then the 2nd entry is too.
> > > > 
> > > > Yeah, from the anyOf logic it's redundant indeed. But the idea was to
> > > > signify that the DT-node may have one the next clock-names
> > > > combination:
> > > >    clock-names = "pad";
> > > > or clock-names = "core";
> > > > or clock-names = "core", "pad";
> > > > or clock-names = "pclk";
> > > > or clock-names = "pclk", "core";
> > > > or clock-names = "pclk", "pad";
> > > > or clock-names = "pclk", "core", "pad";
> > > 
> > > That would be:
> > > 
> > > oneOf:
> > >   - minItems: 1
> > >     items:
> > >       - enum: [core, pad]
> > >       - const: pad
> > >   - minItems: 1
> > >     items:
> > >       - const: pclk
> > >       - enum: [core, pad]
> > >       - const: pad
> > > 
> > > *-names is enforced to be 'uniqueItems: true', so we don't have to worry 
> > > about repeated entries.
> > > 
> > > This also nicely splits between MMIO and MDIO.
> > 
> > I had such approach in mind, but it seemed to me more complicated and
> > weakly scaleable (should we need to add some more clocks). Isn't the
> > next constraint look more readable:
> 
> Hardware is magically growing more clocks?

There is a non-zero probability I could have missed some additional
clocks defined in the DW XPCS IP-core databooks or there are some
vendor-specific clock sources we can't predict. Moreover the new
IP-core releases may have the clock sources list extended. So the
magic may happen.)

> 
>  
> > anyOf:
> >   - description: DW XPCS accessible over MDIO-bus
> >     minItems: 1
> >     maxItems: 2
> >     items:
> >       enum: [core, pad]
> >   - description: DW XPCS with the MCI/APB3 CSRs IO interface
> >     minItems: 1
> >     maxItems: 3
> >     items:
> >       enum: [pclk, core, pad]
> >     contains:
> >       const: pclk
> > ?
> 
> I don't see how that is much better in simplicity or scaleability. I 
> would just do this over the above:
> 
> minItems: 1
> maxItems: 3
> items:
>   enum: [pclk, core, pad]
> 
> Either you define the order or you don't. The former is strongly 
> preferred. The latter is done when it's too much a mess or we just don't 
> care to discuss it any more.

Ok. Since the order-based constraint is strongly preferable, then
there is nothing to discuss. I'll make sure the order is defined.
Thanks for review.

-Serge(y)

> 
> Rob

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