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Message-ID: <ZopTTqrHRekd8d8u@shredder.mtl.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2024 11:35:26 +0300
From: Ido Schimmel <idosch@...sch.org>
To: Krzysztof Olędzki <ole@....pl>
Cc: Dan Merillat <git@....merillat.org>, Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@...e.cz>,
	netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ethtool fails to read some QSFP+ modules.

On Thu, Jul 04, 2024 at 05:27:49AM -0700, Krzysztof Olędzki wrote:
> On 03.07.2024 at 07:36, Krzysztof Olędzki wrote:
> > Good morning,
> > 
> > On 01.07.2024 at 00:41, Ido Schimmel wrote:
> >> Forgot to add Krzysztof :p
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 01, 2024 at 10:28:39AM +0300, Ido Schimmel wrote:
> >>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 01:27:07PM -0400, Dan Merillat wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I was testing an older Kaiam XQX2502 40G-LR4 and ethtool -m failed with netlink error.  It's treating a failure to read
> >>>> the optional page3 data as a hard failure.
> >>>>
> >>>> This patch allows ethtool to read qsfp modules that don't implement the voltage/temperature alarm data.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the report and the patch. Krzysztof Olędzki reported the same
> >>> issue earlier this year:
> >>> https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/9e757616-0396-4573-9ea9-3cb5ef5c901a@ans.pl/
> >>>
> >>> Krzysztof, are you going to submit the ethtool and mlx4 patches?
> > 
> > Yes, and I apologize for the delay - I have been traveling with my family and was unable to get into it.
> > 
> > I should be able to work on the patches later this week, so please expect something from me around the weekend.
> > 
> >>>> From 3144fbfc08fbfb90ecda4848fc9356bde8933d4a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> >>>> From: Dan Merillat <git@....eginity.com>
> >>>> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 13:11:51 -0400
> >>>> Subject: [PATCH] Some qsfp modules do not support page 3
> >>>>
> >>>> Tested on an older Kaiam XQX2502 40G-LR4 module.
> >>>> ethtool -m aborts with netlink error due to page 3
> >>>> not existing on the module. Ignore the error and
> >>>> leave map->page_03h NULL.
> 
> BTW - the code change does what we have discussed, but I think the comment
> may be incorrect? Before we call nl_get_eeprom_page, there is a check to
> verify that Page 03h is present:
> 
>         /* Page 03h is only present when the module memory model is paged and
>          * not flat.
>          */
>         if (map->lower_memory[SFF8636_STATUS_2_OFFSET] &
>             SFF8636_STATUS_PAGE_3_PRESENT)
>                 return 0;
> 
> In this case, it seems to me that the failure can only be caused by either
> HW issues (NIC or SFP) *or* a bug in the driver. Assuming we want to provide
> some details in the code, maybe something like this may be better?
> 
> +	/* Page 03h is not available due to either HW issue or a bug
> +	 * in the driver. This is a non-fatal error and sff8636_dom_parse()
> +	 * handles this correctly.
> +	 */

Looks fine to me although I believe an error in this case will always be
returned because of a driver bug. Reading a page that does not exist
should not result in an error, but in the module returning Upper Page
00h. Yet to encounter a module that works in a different way. From
SFF-8636 Section 6.1:

"Writing the value of a non-supported page shall not be accepted by the
slave. The Page Select byte shall revert to 0h and read/write operations
shall be to Upper Page 00h. Because Upper Page 00h is read-only, this
scheme prevents the inadvertent corruption of module memory by a host
attempting to write to a non-supported location."

> 
> We were also discussing if printing a warning in such situation may make sense.
> As I was thinking about this more, I wonder if we can just use the same check
> in sff8636_show_dom() and if map->page_03h is NULL print for
>  "Alarm/warning flags implemented"
> something like:
>  "Failed (Page 03h access error, HW issue or kernel driver bug?)"
> 
> We would get it in addition to "netlink error: Invalid argument" that comes from:
> ./netlink/nlsock.c:             perror("netlink error");

I think it's better to print it in sff8636_memory_map_init_pages() as
that way the user can more easily understand the reason for "netlink
error: Invalid argument":

# ./ethtool -m swp13                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
netlink error: Invalid argument
Failed to read Upper Page 03h
        Identifier                                : 0x11 (QSFP28)
        Extended identifier                       : 0xcf
[...]

BTW, just to be sure, you are going to post patches for both ethtool and
mlx4, right?

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