netdev - Re: [PATCH] ptp: Add vDSO-style vmclock support

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Message-ID: <20240726084836-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 08:52:16 -0400
From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>
Cc: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@...il.com>,
	Peter Hilber <peter.hilber@...nsynergy.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] ptp: Add vDSO-style vmclock support

On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 09:35:51AM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> But for this use case, we only need a memory region that the hypervisor
> can update. We don't need any of that complexity of gratuitously
> interrupting all the vCPUs just to ensure that none of them can be
> running userspace while one of them does an update for itself,
> potentially translating from one ABI to another. The hypervisor can
> just update the user-visible memory in place.

Looks like then your userspace is hypervisor specific, and that's a
problem because it's a one way street - there is no way for hypervisor
to know what does userspace need, so no way for hypervisor to know which
information to provide. No real way to fix bugs.

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MST