netdev - Re: [PATCH v1] dt-bindings: net: ethernet-phy: Add forced-master/slave properties for SPE PHYs

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Message-ID: <20240906175430.389cf208@device-28.home>
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2024 17:54:30 +0200
From: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@...tlin.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
Cc: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@...gutronix.de>, Heiner Kallweit
 <hkallweit1@...il.com>, "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Eric
 Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, Paolo
 Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>, Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>, Krzysztof
 Kozlowski <krzk+dt@...nel.org>, Conor Dooley <conor+dt@...nel.org>, Florian
 Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>, kernel@...gutronix.de,
 linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org, Russell King
 <linux@...linux.org.uk>, devicetree@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] dt-bindings: net: ethernet-phy: Add
 forced-master/slave properties for SPE PHYs

On Fri, 6 Sep 2024 17:11:54 +0200
Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch> wrote:

[...]

> 10Base-T1 often does not have autoneg, so preferred-master &
> preferred-slave make non sense in this context, but i wounder if
> somebody will want these later. An Ethernet switch is generally
> preferred-master for example, but the client is preferred-slave.
> 
> Maybe make the property a string with supported values 'forced-master'
> and 'forced-slave', leaving it open for the other two to be added
> later.

My two cents, don't take it as a nack or any strong disagreement, my
experience with SPE is still limited. I agree that for SPE, it's
required that PHYs get their role assigned as early as possible,
otherwise the link can't establish. I don't see any other place but DT
to put that info, as this would be required for say, booting over the
network. This to me falls under 'HW representation', as we could do the
same with straps.

However for preferred-master / preferred-slave, wouldn't we be crossing
the blurry line of "HW description => system configuration in the DT" ?

Maxime