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Message-ID: <CAMRc=MdyHx72o=6Kf0AM69tQBLjuvRVepN0UNjt+Kf4LX3PaMA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 00:58:45 -0700
From: Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@...ev.pl>
To: Kalle Valo <kvalo@...nel.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>, "David S . Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, 
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>, 
	Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>, Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@...nel.org>, Conor Dooley <conor+dt@...nel.org>, 
	Jeff Johnson <jjohnson@...nel.org>, linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org, 
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, devicetree@...r.kernel.org, 
	ath11k@...ts.infradead.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, 
	Bartosz Golaszewski <bartosz.golaszewski@...aro.org>, Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@...nel.org>, 
	Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@...ev.pl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2] dt-bindings: net: ath11k: document the inputs
 of the ath11k on WCN6855

On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 08:22:16 +0200, Kalle Valo <kvalo@...nel.org> said:
> Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@...ev.pl> writes:
>
>> On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 09:48:41 +0200, Kalle Valo <kvalo@...nel.org> said:
>>> Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@...nel.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 14/08/2024 10:23, Bartosz Golaszewski wrote:
>>>>> From: Bartosz Golaszewski <bartosz.golaszewski@...aro.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> Describe the inputs from the PMU of the ath11k module on WCN6855.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Bartosz Golaszewski <bartosz.golaszewski@...aro.org>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> v1 -> v2:
>>>>> - update the example
>>>>
>>>> I don't understand why this patch is no being picked up. The code
>>>> correct represents the piece of hardware. The supplies should be
>>>> required, because this one particular device - the one described in this
>>>> binding - cannot work without them.
>>>
>>> I have already explained the situation. With supplies changed to
>>> optional I'm happy take the patch.
>>>
>>
>> No, silent NAKing and needless stalling is what you're doing. I responded to
>> your last email with extensive clarifications. You're being told by the
>> experts on the subject matter (Krzysztof and Conor) that the change is correct.
>>
>> The change has no functional impact on the driver code.
>
> Until now it was possible to use qcom,ath11k-calibration-variant DT
> property with M.2 devices. If your patch is applied that's not possible
> anymore.
>

This is incorrect, why do you keep repeating it? What will be impossible is
upstreaming DT sources which don't take these supplies - which is what we want.


>> It's also in line with commit 71839a929d9e ("dt-bindings: net:
>> wireless: qcom,ath11k: describe the ath11k on QCA6390") under which we
>> had literally the same discussion and that you ended up picking up
>> after all.
>
> I don't care about QCA6390 as it's not really used anywhere anymore. I
> picked up 71839a929d9e, even though I considered it to be wrong, so that
> your pwrseq subsystem is not delayed. But WCN6855 is a different matter
> as it's more widely used.
>

In upstream sources, it's only used in X13s and I added a node for it to
sc8280xp-crd but that's not upstream yet. Am I missing anything? As I said
several times: for out-of-tree DTS, this change does *not* matter.

>> Arnd: I've added you here to bring this to your attention because it's somewhat
>> related to what we discussed yesterday. It's a change that is very much
>> SoC-specific, that has trouble getting upstream due to the driver's maintainer
>> unwilingness to accept it. Is this a case where a change to DT bindings should
>> go through the SoC rather than the driver tree?
>
> Like I have said, I'm happy to take the patch if the supplies are
> optional. Why can't we do that?
>

Because this patch reflects the reality of the chipset. And device-tree is
supposed to model the reality. It's not there to configure your firmware
loader.

Bartosz

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