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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 19:30:54 +0000
From: "Chia-Yu Chang (Nokia)" <chia-yu.chang@...ia-bell-labs.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>, "Koen De Schepper (Nokia)"
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Subject: RE: [PATCH net-next 00/44] DualPI2, Accurate ECN, TCP Prague patch
 series

We will split into several chunks to follow this guideline and make sure Eric in CC'ed.
Thanks.

Chia-Yu

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2024 7:53 PM
To: Koen De Schepper (Nokia) <koen.de_schepper@...ia-bell-labs.com>; Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>; Chia-Yu Chang (Nokia) <chia-yu.chang@...ia-bell-labs.com>; netdev@...r.kernel.org; ij@...nel.org; ncardwell@...gle.com; g.white@...leLabs.com; ingemar.s.johansson@...csson.com; mirja.kuehlewind@...csson.com; cheshire@...le.com; rs.ietf@....at; Jason_Livingood@...cast.com; vidhi_goel@...le.com; edumazet@...gle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 00/44] DualPI2, Accurate ECN, TCP Prague patch series


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On 10/15/24 5:14 PM, Koen De Schepper (Nokia) wrote:
> We had several internal review rounds, that were specifically making sure it is in line with the processes/guidelines you are referring to.
>
> DualPI2 and TCP-Prague are new modules mostly in a separate file. ACC_ECN unfortunately involves quite some changes in different files with different functionalities and were split into manageable smaller incremental chunks according to the guidelines, ending up in 40 patches. Good thing is that they are small and should be easily processable. It could be split in these 3 features, but would still involve all the ACC_ECN as preferably one patch set. On top of that the 3 TCP-Prague patches rely on the 40 ACC_ECN, so preferably we keep them together too...
>
> The 3 functions are used and tested in many kernels. Initial development started from 3.16 to 4.x, 5.x and recently also in the 6.x kernels. So, the code should be pretty mature (at least from a functionality and stability point of view).


We want bisection to be able to work all the time. This is a must.

That means that you should be able to split a series in arbitrary chunks.

If you take the first 15 patches, and end up with a kernel that breaks, then something is wrong.

Make sure to CC edumazet@...gle.com next time.

Thank you.



> Koen.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2024 12:51 PM
> To: Chia-Yu Chang (Nokia) <chia-yu.chang@...ia-bell-labs.com>; 
> netdev@...r.kernel.org; ij@...nel.org; ncardwell@...gle.com; Koen De 
> Schepper (Nokia) <koen.de_schepper@...ia-bell-labs.com>; 
> g.white@...leLabs.com; ingemar.s.johansson@...csson.com; 
> mirja.kuehlewind@...csson.com; cheshire@...le.com; rs.ietf@....at; 
> Jason_Livingood@...cast.com; vidhi_goel@...le.com
> Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 00/44] DualPI2, Accurate ECN, TCP Prague 
> patch series
>
>
> CAUTION: This is an external email. Please be very careful when clicking links or opening attachments. See the URL nok.it/ext for additional information.
>
>
>
> On 10/15/24 12:28, chia-yu.chang@...ia-bell-labs.com wrote:
>> From: Chia-Yu Chang <chia-yu.chang@...ia-bell-labs.com>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Please find the enclosed patch series covering the L4S (Low Latency, 
>> Low Loss, and Scalable Throughput) as outlined in IETF RFC9330:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9330
>>
>> * 1 patch for DualPI2 (cf. IETF RFC9332
>>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9332)
>> * 40 pataches for Accurate ECN (It implements the AccECN protocol
>>     in terms of negotiation, feedback, and compliance requirements:
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-tcpm-accurate-ecn-28
>> )
>> * 3 patches for TCP Prague (It implements the performance and safety
>>     requirements listed in Appendix A of IETF RFC9331:
>>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9331)
>>
>> Best regagrds,
>> Chia-Yu
> I haven't looked into the series yet, and I doubt I'll be able to do that anytime soon, but you must have a good read of the netdev process before any other action, specifically:
>
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Felix
> ir.bootlin.com%2Flinux%2Fv6.11.3%2Fsource%2FDocumentation%2Fprocess%2F
> maintainer-netdev.rst%23L351&data=05%7C02%7Cchia-yu.chang%40nokia-bell
> -labs.com%7Cd3d50c18d3fd483af47908dced4228e5%7C5d4717519675428d917b70f
> 44f9630b0%7C0%7C0%7C638646115617608802%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjo
> iMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%
> 7C&sdata=4ZRJsQYIsYDrKQV1olJEcrcY7uZ%2Bg7CPhR4lWWPDsL0%3D&reserved=0
>
> and
>
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Felix
> ir.bootlin.com%2Flinux%2Fv6.11.3%2Fsource%2FDocumentation%2Fprocess%2F
> maintainer-netdev.rst%23L15&data=05%7C02%7Cchia-yu.chang%40nokia-bell-
> labs.com%7Cd3d50c18d3fd483af47908dced4228e5%7C5d4717519675428d917b70f4
> 4f9630b0%7C0%7C0%7C638646115617637044%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoi
> MC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7
> C&sdata=Yc3mqMnAOICPRzhPzRPbFmkOsuPReaBIgpZvtZaLPvc%3D&reserved=0
>
> Just to be clear: splitting the series into 3 and posting all of them together will not be good either.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paolo
>
>

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