netdev - Re: [PATCH] xfrm: Add pre-encap fragmentation for packet offload

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Message-ID: <20241126132145.GA1245331@unreal>
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2024 15:21:45 +0200
From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@...nel.org>
To: Steffen Klassert <steffen.klassert@...unet.com>
Cc: Ilia Lin <ilia.lin@...nel.org>, herbert@...dor.apana.org.au,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, dsahern@...nel.org,
	edumazet@...gle.com, kuba@...nel.org, pabeni@...hat.com,
	horms@...nel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xfrm: Add pre-encap fragmentation for packet offload

On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 01:59:31PM +0100, Steffen Klassert wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 10:35:13AM +0200, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 09:09:03AM +0200, Ilia Lin wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 9:43 PM Leon Romanovsky <leon@...nel.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 11:26:14AM +0200, Ilia Lin wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 2:04 PM Leon Romanovsky <leon@...nel.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 11:35:31AM +0200, Ilia Lin wrote:
> > > > > > > In packet offload mode the raw packets will be sent to the NiC,
> > > > > > > and will not return to the Network Stack. In event of crossing
> > > > > > > the MTU size after the encapsulation, the NiC HW may not be
> > > > > > > able to fragment the final packet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, HW doesn't know how to handle these packets.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Adding mandatory pre-encapsulation fragmentation for both
> > > > > > > IPv4 and IPv6, if tunnel mode with packet offload is configured
> > > > > > > on the state.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was under impression is that xfrm_dev_offload_ok() is responsible to
> > > > > > prevent fragmentation.
> > > > > >
> > > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.12/source/net/xfrm/xfrm_device.c#L410
> > > > >
> > > > > With my change we can both support inner fragmentation or prevent it,
> > > > > depending on the network device driver implementation.
> > > >
> > > > The thing is that fragmentation isn't desirable thing. Why didn't PMTU
> > > > take into account headers so we can rely on existing code and do not add
> > > > extra logic for packet offload?
> > > 
> > > I agree that PMTU is preferred option, but the packets may be routed from
> > > a host behind the VPN, which is unaware that it transmits into an IPsec
> > > tunnel,
> > > and therefore will not count on the extra headers.
> > 
> > My basic web search shows that PMTU works correctly for IPsec tunnels too.
> 
> Yes, at least SW and crypto offload IPsec PMTU works correctly.
> 
> > 
> > Steffen, do we need special case for packet offload here? My preference is
> > to make sure that we will have as less possible special cases for packet
> > offload.
> 
> Looks like the problem on packet offload is that packets
> bigger than MTU size are dropped before the PMTU signaling
> is handled.

But PMTU should be less or equal to MTU, even before first packet was
sent. Otherwise already first packet will be fragmented.

Thanks