netdev - Re: [PATCH] net: ethernet: toshiba: ps3_gelic_wireless: Remove driver using deprecated API wext

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Message-ID: <CAMuHMdXPSK-6_bMoiJyAsV4nhfW7HytZpOpf7Odg-4YKYNZfEA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 10:25:57 +0100
From: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>
Cc: Philipp Hortmann <philipp.g.hortmann@...il.com>, Johannes Berg <johannes@...solutions.net>, 
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@...n.ch>, "David S . Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, 
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	Geoff Levand <geoff@...radead.org>, Simon Horman <horms@...nel.org>, 
	Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@...el.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org, 
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	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@...tlin.com>, Claudiu Beznea <claudiu.beznea@...on.dev>, 
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	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>, Stanislaw Gruszka <stf_xl@...pl>, 
	linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org>, linux-staging@...ts.linux.dev, 
	linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>, 
	Stefan Lippers-Hollmann <s.l-h@....de>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: ethernet: toshiba: ps3_gelic_wireless: Remove driver
 using deprecated API wext

Hi David,

On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 10:14 AM David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 2025-01-03 at 09:53 +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > > The following points are also in the list of reasons:
> > > - This driver has a maximum 54MBit/s as it supports only 802.11 b/g.
> > > - Using this hardware is security wise not state of the art as WPA3 is
> > >     not supported.
> >
> > If you only do VPN over such an insecure link, I guess it's still safe?
>
> Why VPN? If it's public Internet that any you only use secure protocols
> such as https/ssh/etc over it that's just fine too.

Oh sure.

I was also considering it from the side of the wireless access point:
if you have to provide an non-secure access point just for your PS3,
an attacker can not only impact PS3 wireless traffic, but also connect
to the access point.

Gr{oetje,eeting}s,

                        Geert

-- 
Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@...ux-m68k.org

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