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Message-ID: <cd8c8f91-336d-4dd2-b997-4f7581202e64@googlemail.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 07:22:27 +0200 (GMT+02:00)
From: Christian Göttsche <cgzones@...glemail.com>
To: Paul Moore <paul@...l-moore.com>
Cc: Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@...zon.com>, selinux@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@...nel.org>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@...nel.org>,
	Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@...gle.com>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemb@...gle.com>,
	Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@...filter.org>,
	Jozsef Kadlecsik <kadlec@...filter.org>,
	James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>,
	Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuni1840@...il.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 net-next 2/4] net: Retire DCCP.

Apr 8, 2025 03:35:15 Paul Moore <paul@...l-moore.com>:

> On Mon, Apr 7, 2025 at 7:19 PM Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@...zon.com> wrote:
>>
>> DCCP was orphaned in 2021 by commit 054c4610bd05 ("MAINTAINERS: dccp:
>> move Gerrit Renker to CREDITS"), which noted that the last maintainer
>> had been inactive for five years.
>>
>> In recent years, it has become a playground for syzbot, and most changes
>> to DCCP have been odd bug fixes triggered by syzbot.  Apart from that,
>> the only changes have been driven by treewide or networking API updates
>> or adjustments related to TCP.
>>
>> Thus, in 2023, we announced we would remove DCCP in 2025 via commit
>> b144fcaf46d4 ("dccp: Print deprecation notice.").
>>
>> Since then, only one individual has contacted the netdev mailing list. [0]
>>
>> There is ongoing research for Multipath DCCP.  The repository is hosted
>> on GitHub [1], and development is not taking place through the upstream
>> community.  While the repository is published under the GPLv2 license,
>> the scheduling part remains proprietary, with a LICENSE file [2] stating:
>>
>>   "This is not Open Source software."
>>
>> The researcher mentioned a plan to address the licensing issue, upstream
>> the patches, and step up as a maintainer, but there has been no further
>> communication since then.
>>
>> Maintaining DCCP for a decade without any real users has become a burden.
>>
>> Therefore, it's time to remove it.
>>
>> Removing DCCP will also provide significant benefits to TCP.  It allows
>> us to freely reorganize the layout of struct inet_connection_sock, which
>> is currently shared with DCCP, and optimize it to reduce the number of
>> cachelines accessed in the TCP fast path.
>>
>> Note that we leave uAPI headers alone for userspace programs.
>>
>> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20230710182253.81446-1-kuniyu@amazon.com/T/#u #[0]
>> Link: https://github.com/telekom/mp-dccp #[1]
>> Link: https://github.com/telekom/mp-dccp/blob/mpdccp_v03_k5.10/net/dccp/non_gpl_scheduler/LICENSE #[2]
>> Signed-off-by: Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@...zon.com>
>
> Adding the LSM and SELinux lists for obvious reasons, as well as Casey
> directly since he maintains Smack and I don't see him on the To/CC
> line.
>
> For those that weren't on the original posting, the lore link is below:
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250407231823.95927-1-kuniyu@amazon.com
>
>> diff --git a/security/selinux/include/classmap.h b/security/selinux/include/classmap.h
>> index 04a9b480885e..5665aa5e7853 100644
>> --- a/security/selinux/include/classmap.h
>> +++ b/security/selinux/include/classmap.h
>> @@ -127,8 +127,6 @@ const struct security_class_mapping secclass_map[] = {
>>         { "key",
>>           { "view", "read", "write", "search", "link", "setattr", "create",
>>             NULL } },
>> -       { "dccp_socket",
>> -         { COMMON_SOCK_PERMS, "node_bind", "name_connect", NULL } },
>>         { "memprotect", { "mmap_zero", NULL } },
>>         { "peer", { "recv", NULL } },
>>         { "capability2", { COMMON_CAP2_PERMS, NULL } },
>
> A quick question for the rest of the SELinux folks: the DCCP code is
> going away, so we won't be performing any of the access checks listed
> above, and there will be no way to get a "dccp_socket" object, but do
> we want to preserve the class/perms simply to quiet the warning when
> loading existing policies?

Isn't the kernel just warning about missing clssses/permissions? If policies still define dccp_socket I think the kernel treats it as user space class, like dbus.

> Personally I'm not too bothered by those warnings, I see them fairly
> regularly for a few classes/perms on my test systems, but thought it
> was worth having a quick discussion on this one since it is a bit
> different.
>
> --
> paul-moore.com