netdev - Re: [PATCH bpf-next v7 03/10] bpf: net_sched: Add basic bpf qdisc kfuncs

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Message-ID: <08811dd9-2449-42c9-8028-8a4dfec20afd@linux.dev>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2025 11:36:47 -0700
From: Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@...ux.dev>
To: Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@...il.com>,
 Amery Hung <ameryhung@...il.com>
Cc: bpf@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
 alexei.starovoitov@...il.com, andrii@...nel.org, daniel@...earbox.net,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v7 03/10] bpf: net_sched: Add basic bpf qdisc
 kfuncs

On 4/11/25 10:08 AM, Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 at 18:59, Amery Hung <ameryhung@...il.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 11, 2025 at 6:32 AM Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
>> <memxor@...il.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 at 23:46, Amery Hung <ameryhung@...il.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Amery Hung <amery.hung@...edance.com>
>>>>
>>>> Add basic kfuncs for working on skb in qdisc.
>>>>
>>>> Both bpf_qdisc_skb_drop() and bpf_kfree_skb() can be used to release
>>>> a reference to an skb. However, bpf_qdisc_skb_drop() can only be called
>>>> in .enqueue where a to_free skb list is available from kernel to defer
>>>> the release. bpf_kfree_skb() should be used elsewhere. It is also used
>>>> in bpf_obj_free_fields() when cleaning up skb in maps and collections.
>>>>
>>>> bpf_skb_get_hash() returns the flow hash of an skb, which can be used
>>>> to build flow-based queueing algorithms.
>>>>
>>>> Finally, allow users to create read-only dynptr via bpf_dynptr_from_skb().
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Amery Hung <amery.hung@...edance.com>
>>>> Acked-by: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@...hat.com>
>>>> ---
>>>
>>> How do we prevent UAF when dynptr is accessed after bpf_kfree_skb?
>>>
>>
>> Good question...
>>
>> Maybe we can add a ref_obj_id field to bpf_reg_state->dynptr to track
>> the ref_obj_id of the object underlying a dynptr?
>>
>> Then, in release_reference(), in addition to finding ref_obj_id in
>> registers, verifier will also search stack slots and invalidate all
>> dynptrs with the ref_obj_id.
>>
>> Does this sound like a feasible solution?
> 
> Yes, though I talked with Andrii and he has better ideas for doing
> this generically, but for now I think we can make this fix as a
> stopgap.

In case the better fix will take longer, just want to mention that an option is 
to remove the bpf_dynptr_from_skb() from bpf qdisc. I don't see an urgent need 
for the bpf qdisc to be able to directly access the skb->data. btw, I don't 
think bpf qdisc should write to the skb->data.

The same goes for the bpf_kfree_skb(). I was thinking if it is useful at all 
considering there is already a bpf_qdisc_skb_drop(). I kept it there because it 
is a little more intuitive in case the .reset/.destroy wanted to do a "skb = 
bpf_kptr_xchg(&skbn->skb, NULL);" and then explicitly free the 
bpf_kfree_skb(skb). However, the bpf prog can also directly do the 
bpf_obj_drop(skbn) and then bpf_kfree_skb() is not needed, right?