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Message-ID: <867bb4b6-df27-4948-ab51-9dcc11c04064@redhat.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2025 10:01:17 +0200
From: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@...utronix.de>,
 Aaron Conole <aconole@...hat.com>
Cc: netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-rt-devel@...ts.linux.dev,
 "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
 Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, Simon Horman <horms@...nel.org>,
 Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>, Eelco Chaudron <echaudro@...hat.com>,
 Ilya Maximets <i.maximets@....org>, dev@...nvswitch.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 12/18] openvswitch: Move ovs_frag_data_storage
 into the struct ovs_pcpu_storage

On 4/16/25 6:45 PM, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2025-04-15 12:26:13 [-0400], Aaron Conole wrote:
>> I'm going to reply here, but I need to bisect a bit more (though I
>> suspect the results below are due to 11/18).  When I tested with this
>> patch there were lots of "unexplained" latency spikes during processing
>> (note, I'm not doing PREEMPT_RT in my testing, but I guess it would
>> smooth the spikes out at the cost of max performance).
>>
>> With the series:
>> [SUM]   0.00-300.00 sec  3.28 TBytes  96.1 Gbits/sec  9417             sender
>> [SUM]   0.00-300.00 sec  3.28 TBytes  96.1 Gbits/sec                  receiver
>>
>> Without the series:
>> [SUM]   0.00-300.00 sec  3.26 TBytes  95.5 Gbits/sec  149             sender
>> [SUM]   0.00-300.00 sec  3.26 TBytes  95.5 Gbits/sec                  receiver
>>
>> And while the 'final' numbers might look acceptable, one thing I'll note
>> is I saw multiple stalls as:
>>
>> [  5]  57.00-58.00  sec   128 KBytes   903 Kbits/sec    0   4.02 MBytes
>>
>> But without the patch, I didn't see such stalls.  My testing:
>>
>> 1. Install openvswitch userspace and ipcalc
>> 2. start userspace.
>> 3. Setup two netns and connect them (I have a more complicated script to
>>    set up the flows, and I can send that to you)
>> 4. Use iperf3 to test (-P5 -t 300)
>>
>> As I wrote I suspect the locking in 11 is leading to these stalls, as
>> the data I'm sending shouldn't be hitting the frag path.
>>
>> Do these results seem expected to you?
> 
> You have slightly better throughput but way more retries. I wouldn't
> expect that. And then the stall.
> 
> Patch 10 & 12 move per-CPU variables around and makes them "static"
> rather than allocating them at module init time. I would not expect this
> to have a negative impact.
> Patch #11 assigns the current thread to a variable and clears it again.
> The remaining lockdep code disappears. The whole thing runs with BH
> disabled so no preemption.
> 
> I can't explain what you observe here. Unless it is a random glitch
> please send the script and I try to take a look.

I also think this series should not have any visible performance impact
on not RT OVS tests. @Aaron: could you please double check the results
(both the good on unpatched kernel and the bad with the series applied)
are reproducible and not due some glitches.

@Sebastian: I think the 'owner' assignment could be optimized out at
compile time for non RT build - will likely not matter for performances,
but I think it will be 'nicer', could you please update the patches to
do that?

Thanks!

Paolo


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