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Message-ID: <CAL+tcoDa13Gzdzv7NOSVwWDZV86w7NgJniT1jMqe2FCw1psHFg@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2025 16:22:21 +0800
From: Jason Xing <kerneljasonxing@...il.com>
To: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>
Cc: davem@...emloft.net, edumazet@...gle.com, kuba@...nel.org, 
	bjorn@...nel.org, magnus.karlsson@...el.com, maciej.fijalkowski@...el.com, 
	jonathan.lemon@...il.com, sdf@...ichev.me, ast@...nel.org, 
	daniel@...earbox.net, hawk@...nel.org, john.fastabend@...il.com, joe@...a.to, 
	willemdebruijn.kernel@...il.com, bpf@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org, 
	Jason Xing <kernelxing@...cent.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v6] net: xsk: introduce XDP_MAX_TX_BUDGET set/getsockopt

On Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 4:15 PM Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com> wrote:
>
> On 6/27/25 1:01 PM, Jason Xing wrote:
> > From: Jason Xing <kernelxing@...cent.com>
> >
> > This patch provides a setsockopt method to let applications leverage to
> > adjust how many descs to be handled at most in one send syscall. It
> > mitigates the situation where the default value (32) that is too small
> > leads to higher frequency of triggering send syscall.
> >
> > Considering the prosperity/complexity the applications have, there is no
> > absolutely ideal suggestion fitting all cases. So keep 32 as its default
> > value like before.
> >
> > The patch does the following things:
> > - Add XDP_MAX_TX_BUDGET socket option.
> > - Convert TX_BATCH_SIZE to tx_budget_spent.
> > - Set tx_budget_spent to 32 by default in the initialization phase as a
> >   per-socket granular control. 32 is also the min value for
> >   tx_budget_spent.
> > - Set the range of tx_budget_spent as [32, xs->tx->nentries].
> >
> > The idea behind this comes out of real workloads in production. We use a
> > user-level stack with xsk support to accelerate sending packets and
> > minimize triggering syscalls. When the packets are aggregated, it's not
> > hard to hit the upper bound (namely, 32). The moment user-space stack
> > fetches the -EAGAIN error number passed from sendto(), it will loop to try
> > again until all the expected descs from tx ring are sent out to the driver.
> > Enlarging the XDP_MAX_TX_BUDGET value contributes to less frequency of
> > sendto() and higher throughput/PPS.
> >
> > Here is what I did in production, along with some numbers as follows:
> > For one application I saw lately, I suggested using 128 as max_tx_budget
> > because I saw two limitations without changing any default configuration:
> > 1) XDP_MAX_TX_BUDGET, 2) socket sndbuf which is 212992 decided by
> > net.core.wmem_default. As to XDP_MAX_TX_BUDGET, the scenario behind
> > this was I counted how many descs are transmitted to the driver at one
> > time of sendto() based on [1] patch and then I calculated the
> > possibility of hitting the upper bound. Finally I chose 128 as a
> > suitable value because 1) it covers most of the cases, 2) a higher
> > number would not bring evident results. After twisting the parameters,
> > a stable improvement of around 4% for both PPS and throughput and less
> > resources consumption were found to be observed by strace -c -p xxx:
> > 1) %time was decreased by 7.8%
> > 2) error counter was decreased from 18367 to 572
> >
> > [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250619093641.70700-1-kerneljasonxing@gmail.com/
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Jason Xing <kernelxing@...cent.com>
>
> LGTM, waiting a little more for an explicit an ack from XDP maintainers.

Thanks. No problem.

>
> Side note: it could be useful to extend the xdp selftest to trigger the
> new code path.

Roger that, sir. I will do it after this gets merged, maybe later this
month, still studying for various tests in recent days :)

Thanks,
Jason

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