netdev - Re: [RFC v1 17/22] netdev: add support for setting rx-buf-len per queue

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Message-ID: <CAHS8izOZEpe1mDTFFM-LatqwJjXUV_f+ajrVK2S_=oBbpVXUZA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2025 16:10:36 -0700
From: Mina Almasry <almasrymina@...gle.com>
To: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@...il.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, netdev@...r.kernel.org, io-uring@...r.kernel.org, 
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, Willem de Bruijn <willemb@...gle.com>, 
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>, andrew+netdev@...n.ch, horms@...nel.org, 
	davem@...emloft.net, sdf@...ichev.me, dw@...idwei.uk, 
	michael.chan@...adcom.com, dtatulea@...dia.com, ap420073@...il.com
Subject: Re: [RFC v1 17/22] netdev: add support for setting rx-buf-len per queue

On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 4:03 AM Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@...il.com> wrote:
>
> From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>
>
> Zero-copy APIs increase the cost of buffer management. They also extend
> this cost to user space applications which may be used to dealing with
> much larger buffers. Allow setting rx-buf-len per queue, devices with
> HW-GRO support can commonly fill buffers up to 32k (or rather 64k - 1
> but that's not a power of 2..)
>
> The implementation adds a new option to the netdev netlink, rather
> than ethtool. The NIC-wide setting lives in ethtool ringparams so
> one could argue that we should be extending the ethtool API.
> OTOH netdev API is where we already have queue-get, and it's how
> zero-copy applications bind memory providers.
>
> Signed-off-by: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>
> Signed-off-by: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@...il.com>
> ---
>  Documentation/netlink/specs/netdev.yaml | 15 ++++
>  include/net/netdev_queues.h             |  5 ++
>  include/net/netlink.h                   | 19 +++++
>  include/uapi/linux/netdev.h             |  2 +
>  net/core/netdev-genl-gen.c              | 15 ++++
>  net/core/netdev-genl-gen.h              |  1 +
>  net/core/netdev-genl.c                  | 92 +++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  net/core/netdev_config.c                | 16 +++++
>  tools/include/uapi/linux/netdev.h       |  2 +
>  9 files changed, 167 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/netlink/specs/netdev.yaml b/Documentation/netlink/specs/netdev.yaml
> index c0ef6d0d7786..5dd1eb5909cd 100644
> --- a/Documentation/netlink/specs/netdev.yaml
> +++ b/Documentation/netlink/specs/netdev.yaml
> @@ -324,6 +324,10 @@ attribute-sets:
>          doc: XSK information for this queue, if any.
>          type: nest
>          nested-attributes: xsk-info
> +      -
> +        name: rx-buf-len
> +        doc: Per-queue configuration of ETHTOOL_A_RINGS_RX_BUF_LEN.
> +        type: u32
>    -
>      name: qstats
>      doc: |
> @@ -755,6 +759,17 @@ operations:
>          reply:
>            attributes:
>              - id
> +    -
> +      name: queue-set
> +      doc: Set per-queue configurable options.
> +      attribute-set: queue
> +      do:
> +        request:
> +          attributes:
> +            - ifindex
> +            - type
> +            - id
> +            - rx-buf-len
>
>  kernel-family:
>    headers: [ "net/netdev_netlink.h"]
> diff --git a/include/net/netdev_queues.h b/include/net/netdev_queues.h
> index f75313fc78ba..cfd2d59861e1 100644
> --- a/include/net/netdev_queues.h
> +++ b/include/net/netdev_queues.h
> @@ -38,6 +38,7 @@ struct netdev_config {
>
>  /* Same semantics as fields in struct netdev_config */
>  struct netdev_queue_config {
> +       u32     rx_buf_len;
>  };
>
>  /* See the netdev.yaml spec for definition of each statistic */
> @@ -140,6 +141,8 @@ void netdev_stat_queue_sum(struct net_device *netdev,
>  /**
>   * struct netdev_queue_mgmt_ops - netdev ops for queue management
>   *
> + * @supported_ring_params: ring params supported per queue (ETHTOOL_RING_USE_*).
> + *

I don't see this used anywhere.

But more generally, I'm a bit concerned about protecting drivers that
don't support configuring one particular queue config. I think likely
supported_ring_params needs to be moved earlier to the patch which
adds per queue netdev_configs to the queue API, and probably as part
of that patch core needs to make sure it's never asking a driver that
doesn't support changing a netdev_queue_config to do so?

Some thought may be given to moving the entire configuration story
outside of queue_mem_alloc/free queue_start/stop altogether to new
ndos where core can easily check if the ndo is supported otherwise
per-queue config is not supported. Otherwise core needs to be careful
never to attempt a config that is not supported?

-- 
Thanks,
Mina