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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2025 10:32:42 +0000
From: "Chia-Yu Chang (Nokia)" <chia-yu.chang@...ia-bell-labs.com>
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Subject: RE: [PATCH v6 net-next 10/14] tcp: accecn: retransmit SYN/ACK without
 AccECN option or non-AccECN SYN/ACK

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com> 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2025 2:59 PM
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> Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 net-next 10/14] tcp: accecn: retransmit SYN/ACK without AccECN option or non-AccECN SYN/ACK
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> On 11/14/25 8:13 AM, chia-yu.chang@...ia-bell-labs.com wrote:
> > From: Chia-Yu Chang <chia-yu.chang@...ia-bell-labs.com>
> >
> > For Accurate ECN, the first SYN/ACK sent by the TCP server shall set 
> > the ACE flag (see Table 1 of RFC9768) and the AccECN option to 
> > complete the capability negotiation. However, if the TCP server needs 
> > to retransmit such a SYN/ACK (for example, because it did not receive 
> > an ACK acknowledging its SYN/ACK, or received a second SYN requesting 
> > AccECN support), the TCP server retransmits the SYN/ACK without the 
> > AccECN option. This is because the SYN/ACK may be lost due to 
> > congestion, or a middlebox may block the AccECN option. Furthermore, 
> > if this retransmission also times out, to expedite connection 
> > establishment, the TCP server should retransmit the SYN/ACK with
> > (AE,CWR,ECE) = (0,0,0) and without the AccECN option, while 
> > maintaining AccECN feedback mode.
> >
> > This complies with Section 3.2.3.2.2 of the AccECN specification (RFC9768).
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Chia-Yu Chang <chia-yu.chang@...ia-bell-labs.com>
> >
> > ---
> > v6:
> > - Use new synack_type TCP_SYNACK_RETRANS and num_retrans.
> > ---
> >  include/net/tcp_ecn.h | 20 ++++++++++++++------  
> > net/ipv4/tcp_output.c |  4 ++--
> >  2 files changed, 16 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/include/net/tcp_ecn.h b/include/net/tcp_ecn.h index 
> > a709fb1756eb..57841dfa6705 100644
> > --- a/include/net/tcp_ecn.h
> > +++ b/include/net/tcp_ecn.h
> > @@ -649,12 +649,20 @@ static inline void tcp_ecn_clear_syn(struct sock 
> > *sk, struct sk_buff *skb)  }
> >
> >  static inline void
> > -tcp_ecn_make_synack(const struct request_sock *req, struct tcphdr 
> > *th) -{
> > -     if (tcp_rsk(req)->accecn_ok)
> > -             tcp_accecn_echo_syn_ect(th, tcp_rsk(req)->syn_ect_rcv);
> > -     else if (inet_rsk(req)->ecn_ok)
> > -             th->ece = 1;
> > +tcp_ecn_make_synack(const struct request_sock *req, struct tcphdr *th,
> > +                 enum tcp_synack_type synack_type) {
> > +     // num_retrans will be incresaed after tcp_ecn_make_synack()
> 
> Please use /* */ for comments
> 
> > +     if (!req->num_retrans) {
> 
> It's unclear you this function receives a `synack_type` argument and don't use it. Should the above be
> 
>         if (synack_type != TCP_SYNACK_RETRANS) {
> 
> ?
> 
> Or just remove such argument.
> 
> /P
Hi Paolo,

You are right, and I will use both "synack_type != TCP_SYNACK_RETRANS" || "!req->num_retrans".

Because this ACE field fallback will only happen from the 2nd retansmitted SYN/ACK.

Chia-Yu

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