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Message-ID: <CANn89iJHz4ecnqfFY9F4Mkb-aKCiCRhtx8++YvKPZbSHy4NXGA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2026 11:18:27 +0100
From: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>
To: chia-yu.chang@...ia-bell-labs.com
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 net-next 06/15] tcp: accecn: handle unexpected AccECN
 negotiation feedback

On Mon, Jan 19, 2026 at 7:59 PM <chia-yu.chang@...ia-bell-labs.com> wrote:
>
> From: Chia-Yu Chang <chia-yu.chang@...ia-bell-labs.com>
>
> According to Section 3.1.2 of AccECN spec (RFC9768), if a TCP Client
> has sent a SYN requesting AccECN feedback with (AE,CWR,ECE) = (1,1,1)
> then receives a SYN/ACK with the currently reserved combination
> (AE,CWR,ECE) = (1,0,1) but it does not have logic specific to such a
> combination, the Client MUST enable AccECN mode as if the SYN/ACK
> confirmed that the Server supported AccECN and as if it fed back that
> the IP-ECN field on the SYN had arrived unchanged.

I find this a bit confusing.

3.1.2 has :

An AccECN implementation has no need to recognize or support the Server
response labelled 'Nonce' or ECN-nonce feedback more generally , as RFC 3540
has been reclassified as Historic . AccECN is compatible with alternative
 ECN feedback integrity approaches to the nonce (see Section 5.3).
 The SYN/ACK labelled 'Nonce' with (AE,CWR,ECE) = (1,0,1) is reserved
for future use.
A TCP Client (A) that receives such a SYN/ ACK follows the procedure
for forward compatibility given in Section 3.1.3.

The relevant section in the RFC is 3.1.2 _and_ 3.1.3 ?

Honestly, AccECN is way too complex for my taste :/

Please copy/paste the precise RFC parts, it will help future maintenance.

Reviewed-by: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>

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