phc-discussions - Re: [PHC] Any "large verifiers" on the panel?

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Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 01:50:00 +0100
From: Patrick Mylund Nielsen <patrick@...rickmylund.com>
To: "discussions@...sword-hashing.net" <discussions@...sword-hashing.net>
Subject: Re: [PHC] Any "large verifiers" on the panel?

>> That attackers are compromising servers and sniffing passwords over the
>> wire, waiting for re-authentications, rather than just grabbing the
>> database.

> Both of these things (and many others) are happening.  It is non-obvious which
is more common.

My bad for speaking in absolutes. Of course nothing is. Can we agree that a
COPY TO STDOUT of a users table does more damage (and is easier to perform)
with less risk of being caught/stopped in time than does network MITM, and
that based on virtually all of the compromises that have become
(semi-)public, assuming that the former is the more common isn't completely
unreasonable?

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 1:19 AM, Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 12:38:31AM +0100, Patrick Mylund Nielsen wrote:
> > That attackers are compromising servers and sniffing passwords over the
> > wire, waiting for re-authentications, rather than just grabbing the
> > database.
>
> Both of these things (and many others) are happening.  It is non-obvious
> which is more common.
>
> Alexander
>

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