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Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 02:06:54 +0100
From: Patrick Mylund Nielsen <>
To: "" <>
Subject: Re: [PHC] Any "large verifiers" on the panel?

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:00 AM, Solar Designer <> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 01:42:42AM +0100, Patrick Mylund Nielsen wrote:
> > Sorry, I do agree that it doesn't hurt to have e.g. a secret that is e.g.
> > on the disk instead of the database--I'm just worried that such secrets
> > would become central to the strength of the algorithm, i.e. developers
> rely
> > too much on the secret, and offline attacks become trivial if you have
> both
> > the secrets and the salts+digests.
> We're not going to consider such schemes seriously.  The call for
> submissions should be clear in this respect.  Isn't it clear now?

I just looked again, and yes. Thank you.

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