phc-discussions - Re: Another dumb idea: compute hardened KDFs

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Message-ID: <CAOLP8p48C920bb-+57szrAuad9y8HsRKYbkPrPYXyCXfTjRXZQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 21:39:53 -0500
From: Bill Cox <waywardgeek@...il.com>
To: discussions@...sword-hashing.net
Subject: Re: Another dumb idea: compute hardened KDFs

I implemented this today.  My inner loop has a multiply, an OR, and an
addition.  Here's delay with 1 thread doing 1/2B 32-bit multiplies
while hashing 2GB of memory on my development machine:

./run_noelkdf
garlic:0 memorySize:2048 numHashRounds:2048 repeatCount:1 numThreads:1
pageSize:4
9D28A128581703F21C1DE198295326C0D3814EDDE3FC8BB045570EA25D3EB90C

real    0m0.711s
user    0m0.570s
sys     0m0.140s

With two threads:

./run_noelkdf
garlic:0 memorySize:2048 numHashRounds:2048 repeatCount:1 numThreads:2
pageSize:4
C555B8698F6286C2409E6FD6B2C34F7750C24EF39D16D29C4A9AE697BECADDB6

real    0m0.397s
user    0m0.640s
sys     0m0.140s

These runs fill 2GB of memory, reading once and writing once, for 4GB
total transfer.  The second run used 10GB/s of bandwidth, out of what
I think is about 25GB/s max, or 40.3% of the possible bandwidth.

At the same time, the 1/4 giga-multiply operation each thread performs
in series requires .236 seconds, or 3 clocks at 3.4GHz.  That's 59.4%
of the total runtime.

Combined, my cost*time is hardened to within 24% of the optimum
possible for my hardware, simultaneously in memory space and compute
time.

That's a pretty tough KDF to attack with brute force.  There's work to
be done making it secure, but I'm now sold on multiply based
compute-hardening of KDFs.

Bill