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Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 16:16:52 +0100
From: Krisztián Pintér <>
Subject: Re: [PHC] Can I have two entries?

Solar Designer (at Sunday, March 23, 2014, 4:03:55 PM):
> I think having an implementation right away is very important.  It shows
> that the algorithm actually exists.

but i'm quite sure there are other ways to convince you about it, like
a good and easy to read pseudocode.

> Test vectors could be postponed, yes, but they are relatively quick to
> produce,

they are also notoriously hard to test and debug. having a bug in a
reference implementation is ... not so good.

> Test vectors are a trivial technicality,
> Implementation is not as trivial, but is important to have right away.

see the contradiction?

> I can implement that in a weekend (in
> fact, I readily have implementations of each past revision of escrypt)

just like i did. but without checking every single corner case, down
to each and every operations on byte level, considering all the
different possible architectures, compilers and the like, i would not
call that a reference implementation, and whatever it produces, i
would not call test vectors.

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