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Message-ID: <5405B3E1.1060702@ciphershed.org>
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 08:11:13 -0400
From: Bill Cox <waywardgeek@...hershed.org>
To: discussions@...sword-hashing.net
Subject: Re: [PHC] A review per day - Schvrch

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Here's how Solar Designer would PWN any machine asking for a password
that uses the current version of Schvrch.  Here's the top of the PHS
function:

int PHS(void *out, size_t outlen,
        const void *in, size_t inlen,
        const void *salt, size_t saltlen,
        unsigned int t_cost, unsigned m_cost)
{
    int statelen = 256, j;
    uint64_t state[256] = {0};
    uint64_t memcost;
    memcost = (m_cost + 1) * statelen;
    uint64_t * memstate;
    uint64_t rounds = 4, i;

    memmove(&state[0], in, inlen);

There is *no* input checking.  As I said for POMELO, this *must* be
fixed.  Without it, we simply pass inlen > 256, and a custom made
password that has a return instruction encoded in it.  We overwrite
the return address with our own value embeded in the password, and
when this function returns, it returns to any known address we like.
In Linux, this would typically be some function in libc, such as the
"system" command, which can execute arbitrary commands.

I do believe that basic input checking should be part of the reference
design.  It tells us what valid parameters are, which impacts
cryptanalysis.  It also reduces the chance of mistakes like this
escaping into the wild.

I know that there is a guy doing python wrappers for PHC entries using
the PHS function.  If he puts that live on a server anywhere, we can
own that server.  POMELO has this problem, too.  I do not consider
fixing this optional.

For such a small program, there are a lot of attack opportunities.
When I read in the paper that the author considers it secure because
it retains the password entropy, I stopped reading.  There may be some
very cool math there, but the implementation needs a lot work.

Until these devastating attacks are fixed, I consider Schvrch
dangerous to use.

Bill
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