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Message-ID: <CALW8-7Ke3X9ovJJU20kj4oXJGMsvMhhA=DJtogEqwVCRYz5dnA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 21:36:13 +0100
From: Dmitry Khovratovich <khovratovich@...il.com>
To: "discussions@...sword-hashing.net" <discussions@...sword-hashing.net>
Subject: Re: [PHC] Overview of PHC Candidates and Garbage-Collector Attacks

Hi Jakob,

interesting paper and survey!

I would note that both definitions 1 and 2 are ambiguous in what can be
considered an efficient function or adversary. If you make Def 1 more
rigorous by specifying a constant Q such that O(f(x)) < O(PS(x))/Q, then
the definition seems to implicitly require to discard/overwrite/nullify the
first 1/Q outputs of the internal compression function/block generator. For
one-pass schemes this is equivalent to the total memory reduction by the
fraction of (1-1/Q), whereas all two-pass schemes seem to satisfy this
constraint.

Even that reduction seems to be relevant to schemes with data-dependent
addressing only, because the schemes with data-independent addressing
either have two passes or more, or badly suffer from tradeoff attacks (it
is easy to show reduction in the time-area product for (virtually) all
one-pass data-independent schemes).

Best regards,
Dmitry

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Jakob Wenzel <jakob.wenzel@...-weimar.de>
wrote:

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> Hi all,
>
> under the following link you can find an overview of all PHC
> candidates which are not yet withdrawn:
>
> https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/881.pdf
>
> It focuses on comparing general and security properties. Moreover, it
> formally introduces the two attack types garbage-collector attacks and
> weak garbage-collector attacks. For each candidate, we argue why it
> provides resistance against these attack types or we actually show an
> attack.
>
> Best regards,
> Jakob
>
> - --
> Jakob Wenzel
> Research Assistant
> Chair of Media Security (Prof. Lucks)
> Bauhausstraße 11 (Room 217)
> 99423 Weimar
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-- 
Best regards,
Dmitry Khovratovich

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