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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 23:10:07 +0100
From: Per Thorsheim <>
To: "" <>
Subject: Current PHC temperature

I remember talking to Joan Daemen at Passwords12 in Oslo, just after
Jens Steube (atom, author of hashcat) did his presentation on the SHA-1
weakness (or optimization, as many of you would call it).

His words were in the area of "it is so simple, so elegant. We
cryptographers like that."


I don't mind good discussions with a high temperature about the topic at
hand, but please, do hold back on the personal accusations, and drop the
legal/crime debate.

Anonymous voting imho is good, so we lower the risk of personal
accusations and pointy fingers. I wouldn't mind seeing the anonymized
versions of the NOT ADVANCE descriptions from the panelists. As a minimum.

I would like to have one (or more) winner(s) presenting at PasswordsCon
in Las Vegas in august if possible, or at PasswordsCon somewhere in
europe in december. Hopefully a fair competition will end with a fair

Best regards,

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