phc-discussions - Re: [PHC] winner selection

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Message-ID: <552D1396.1060809@Oracle.COM>
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 14:18:14 +0100
From: Darren J Moffat <Darren.Moffat@...cle.COM>
To: discussions@...sword-hashing.net
Subject: Re: [PHC] winner selection

On 04/13/15 22:13, Marsh Ray wrote:

> PHC is our best opportunity to fix this! We want the search results
> filled up instead with*good*  advice for the general case instead of
> bad. We want all those bloggers to go back and blog "PHC has selected
> a winner and it is ...".

There is also an potential interoperability angle (if the password hash 
"database" is used by multiple consumers or needs to be migrated without 
forcing users to change their cleartext. Choices in which to use don't 
always help with that.

> So I want one winner that's a drop-in upgrade for the vast majority
> of the uses of Bcrypt/Scrypt/PBKDF2/SHA-1/MD5/crypt(3) out there
> today.

Agreed.

Though personally I don't mind too much if we end up with different 
algorithms for the PDKDF2 (key derivation) replacement use cases versus 
"password hash" use cases.

-- 
Darren J Moffat