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From: wireless.insecurity at gmail.com (Vladamir)
Subject: CISSP Test

Boo yah! Screw college :)

vulcanius wrote:
> Back in the summer of 2003 I went out to Silicon Valley and met Jeff
> Snyder, Sen. Vice Pres of Veridian's security sector (now General
> Dynamics by the way) and I was surprised to find out that a little
> over half of the employees in their sec. division didn't have any form
> of college degree, they only had CISSPs.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:05:44 -0800, robert@...dsecurity.com
> <robert@...dsecurity.com> wrote:
> 
>>Vladamir(wireless.insecurity@...il.com)@Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 11:34:35PM -0500:
>>
>>>In my opinion, they should do away with "boot camps", they churn out
>>>paper CCNAs, paper CISSPs, and they're doing nobody any real good.
>>>
>>>Why did SANS do away with the practical portion of their (I forgot the
>>>name) exam? I read briefly about it, and it looks (well, looked) like a
>>>lot of fun, how hard would it be?
>>>
>>>Set up honey pot w/ snort, ethereal, secured logging server
>>>Advertise "insecure machine"
>>>Sit back, collect packets, write report.
>>>
>>>Doesn't sound too hard to me!
>>
>>Doesn't sound too useful either!
>>
>>But seriously, most of the "security" industry is sadly broken. It's filled
>>with good intentioned people who grossly misunderstand the problem and people
>>just looking to make a buck where ever they can.
>>
>>SANS programs have little to do with security.  I'm glad they changed their
>>policy.  They seem more honest now.
>>
>>If you want to learn about security, start here:
>>http://www.acm.org/classics/sep95/
>>http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/papers/inevitability/
>>http://www.radium.ncsc.mil/tpep/library/rainbow/
>>
>>Robert
>>
>>--
>>Robert E. Lee
>>CEO, Dyad Security, Inc.
>>W - http://www.dyadsecurity.com
>>E - robert@...dsecurity.com
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