Date: Thu May  5 16:52:54 2005
From: vulcanius at gmail.com (vulcanius)
Subject: telco service?

Heh. I don't think it's off topic at all, after all were just
disclosing information.

KF, your absolutely right. The lack of regulation and the lack of
attention people give to it is atrocious. You would think in a post
9/11 America that they would at least have some sort of security
board. Same goes for the utility companies.

Speaking of LENS. If anyone is interested in a copy of the LERG (local
exchange routing guide) send me an e-mail. Basically a bunch of excel
spreadsheets mapping out switches across the US. Find out who manages
it, what equipment they are running. What NPA/NXX's they control, etc.
It's a nice little thing to have around sometimes. Shoot me a private
e-mail if you'd like a copy. Forewarning, the file is roughly 45MB so
plan to have an FTP ready for me to upload it to.

On 5/5/05, KF (lists) <kf_lists@...italmunition.com> wrote:
> Deigo Dude wrote:
> 
> > Continuing on the thread of telco's (even though its off topic)
> 
> I think it actually falls in a safe zone under the list charter. In
> general though I feel that the security of our nations telco
> infrastructure should certainly be talked about. After the deregulation
> of the industry I feel that some of these companies need to be held
> accountable for their equipment. They are currently in the position that
> they can simply pull  wool over any anyones eyes that inquires about
> their security. 'These aren't the droids you're looking for".
> 
> If you get too close to finding something out they try to burry you in
> legal jargon and mumbo jumbo instead of addressing the problems at hand.
> It is really quite pathetic.
> 
> Every try to talk to your local police about the potential that someone
> may have taken control of your towns DMS100... try it sometime. Have an
> even funner time if you live out in the middle of B.F.E.
> 
> Ever try to talk to the FTC about a telco issue? FBI? DHS? Its not a fun
> task...  especially when folks either A have no clue what you are
> speaking of or B simply don't care.
> 
> These telcos act like the internet and computers have nothing to do with
> the security of their network... I think its bull shit.
> 
> > I used to have access to https://lens.bellsouth.com (Local exchange
> > navigation system) so you all im sure would also have fun if you can
> > gain access to that. You can look up full information for
> > non-published numbers, make reservations of new numbers, make service
> > orders, change phone service, pretty much anything a bellsouth
> > employee would need to do at any point.
> 
> I am sure you and several others have had access to that sort of thing
> over time. That is exactly part of the problem. NO standards and no one
> to really regulate them.
> 
> -KF
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