Date: Thu May  5 05:26:21 2005
From: kf_lists at digitalmunition.com (KF (lists))
Subject: telco service?

Deigo Dude wrote:

> Continuing on the thread of telco's (even though its off topic)

I think it actually falls in a safe zone under the list charter. In 
general though I feel that the security of our nations telco 
infrastructure should certainly be talked about. After the deregulation 
of the industry I feel that some of these companies need to be held 
accountable for their equipment. They are currently in the position that 
they can simply pull  wool over any anyones eyes that inquires about 
their security. 'These aren't the droids you're looking for".

If you get too close to finding something out they try to burry you in 
legal jargon and mumbo jumbo instead of addressing the problems at hand. 
It is really quite pathetic.

Every try to talk to your local police about the potential that someone 
may have taken control of your towns DMS100... try it sometime. Have an 
even funner time if you live out in the middle of B.F.E.

Ever try to talk to the FTC about a telco issue? FBI? DHS? Its not a fun 
task...  especially when folks either A have no clue what you are 
speaking of or B simply don't care.

These telcos act like the internet and computers have nothing to do with 
the security of their network... I think its bull shit.

> I used to have access to https://lens.bellsouth.com (Local exchange 
> navigation system) so you all im sure would also have fun if you can 
> gain access to that. You can look up full information for 
> non-published numbers, make reservations of new numbers, make service 
> orders, change phone service, pretty much anything a bellsouth 
> employee would need to do at any point.


I am sure you and several others have had access to that sort of thing 
over time. That is exactly part of the problem. NO standards and no one 
to really regulate them.

-KF

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