full-disclosure - violent words

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Date: Sun Aug 28 22:53:20 2005
From: y0himba at technolounge.org (y0himba)
Subject: violent words

You know, I am brand new to this list, I an expected to find good
intelligent discussion as well as information that up until now I only had
an idea existed.  I am no where near as intelligent as most of the people on
this list, but I am scraping the surface and learning.

Seeing all the ego fueled idiocy going on here is very disappointing.  We
live in an age where we all know that violence and power corrupt.  To see
this kind of childish posturing coming from two supposedly intelligent
individuals is a disgrace.

I would recommend that they be removed from the list, and banned from it(
correct term?), but I have not been here long enough and don't really have
the right to request such things.

Hopefully the truly enlightened and intelligent, curious individuals on this
list will take this matter into their hands and do something about it.  I
would hope that the individuals who act this way, both the two currently,
and any future persons who would act in this manner, see how egotistical and
small they appear to others, and correct their actions.

You are not winning anything or coming out on top, you are just lowering
yourselves and causing people to nod their heads because they are ashamed of
your behavior.

Thanks to all that post to this list and contribute some of the most
fascinating information I have read on the Internet.  I really appreciate
your efforts and discoveries.

-y0himba

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Peer Janssen
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 5:45 PM
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: [Full-disclosure] violent words

<snip>
[some violent words between two people on this list] </snip>

I am new to this list.

I suppose the goal of "full disclosure" is to make this world a better
place.

So I'm quite astonished about the tone I'm reading in the last mails.

Is this the general tone here ? I never read such a thing before. Maybe in
films, but this is real life, and you are real persons.

Why are you doing this to yourself? Is any of you feeling happier talking
like this to your fellow human beings?
And in front of probably thousands of people?
Is this the kind of world you want to create?

I guess I somewhat understand both your point of view and what your friction
is about, but I think if you try and put yourself in the shoes of your
diskussion partner, you could figure out some way to get along better. I'm
sure you can do that.
I appreciate franc words which are better than keeping silent about
injustice, but I also suppose that gentle and humble -- everybody has some
dark sides -- words will generally work better.

Cheers
Peer

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