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Date: Sun Aug 28 22:56:45 2005 From: measl at mfn.org (J.A. Terranson) Subject: violent words On Sun, 28 Aug 2005, Peer Janssen wrote: > I am new to this list. Then perhaps you should lurk for a while? > I suppose the goal of "full disclosure" is to make this world a better > place. No. Not really. FD is the place where ego's rule and manners are unknown. Think UseNet circa 1995. > So I'm quite astonished about the tone I'm reading in the last mails. If these bother you then you will likely not find this a very comforting home. > Is this the general tone here ? Yes. > I never read such a thing before. Then you don't get out much, do you? > Maybe in films, but this is real life, and you are real persons. No - you and me are real persons. Eric Scher is a wad of dick cheese. > Why are you doing this to yourself? Is any of you feeling happier > talking like this to your fellow human beings? Quite. Thanks for asking. > And in front of probably thousands of people? Hrmmm... Thousands? I don't know that FD has that kind of penetration anymore - but *maybe*. > Is this the kind of world you want to create? It the kind of world we're already IN peer. Dig it or check out, right? > I guess I somewhat understand both your point of view and what your > friction is about, but I think if you try and put yourself in the shoes > of your diskussion partner, you could figure out some way to get along > better. I'm sure you can do that. I don't think so. > I appreciate franc words which are better than keeping silent about > injustice, but I also suppose that gentle and humble -- everybody has > some dark sides -- words will generally work better. Words are, unfortunately, all we have (for now anyway. I'm working on the rest though). So we might as weell use them ;-) > Cheers > Peer //Alif -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin@....org 0xBD4A95BF I like the idea of belief in drug-prohibition as a religion in that it is a strongly held belief based on grossly insufficient evidence and bolstered by faith born of intuitions flowing from the very beliefs they are intended to support. don zweig, M.D.
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