Date: Mon Aug 29 03:20:51 2005
From: stevex11 at sbcglobal.net (Steve Kudlak)
Subject: violent words

y0himba wrote:

>You know, I am brand new to this list, I an expected to find good
>intelligent discussion as well as information that up until now I only had
>an idea existed.  I am no where near as intelligent as most of the people on
>this list, but I am scraping the surface and learning.
>
>Seeing all the ego fueled idiocy going on here is very disappointing.  We
>live in an age where we all know that violence and power corrupt.  To see
>this kind of childish posturing coming from two supposedly intelligent
>individuals is a disgrace.
>
>I would recommend that they be removed from the list, and banned from it(
>correct term?), but I have not been here long enough and don't really have
>the right to request such things.
>
>Hopefully the truly enlightened and intelligent, curious individuals on this
>list will take this matter into their hands and do something about it.  I
>would hope that the individuals who act this way, both the two currently,
>and any future persons who would act in this manner, see how egotistical and
>small they appear to others, and correct their actions.
>
>You are not winning anything or coming out on top, you are just lowering
>yourselves and causing people to nod their heads because they are ashamed of
>your behavior.
>
>Thanks to all that post to this list and contribute some of the most
>fascinating information I have read on the Internet.  I really appreciate
>your efforts and discoveries.
>
>-y0himba
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
>[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Peer Janssen
>Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 5:45 PM
>Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
>Subject: [Full-disclosure] violent words
>
><snip>
>[some violent words between two people on this list] </snip>
>
>I am new to this list.
>
>I suppose the goal of "full disclosure" is to make this world a better
>place.
>
>So I'm quite astonished about the tone I'm reading in the last mails.
>
>Is this the general tone here ? I never read such a thing before. Maybe in
>films, but this is real life, and you are real persons.
>
>Why are you doing this to yourself? Is any of you feeling happier talking
>like this to your fellow human beings?
>And in front of probably thousands of people?
>Is this the kind of world you want to create?
>
>I guess I somewhat understand both your point of view and what your friction
>is about, but I think if you try and put yourself in the shoes of your
>diskussion partner, you could figure out some way to get along better. I'm
>sure you can do that.
>I appreciate franc words which are better than keeping silent about
>injustice, but I also suppose that gentle and humble -- everybody has some
>dark sides -- words will generally work better.
>
>Cheers
>Peer
>
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Usually if one let's arguments burn themselves out and skips their 
subject lines then they go away. I get distressed with yahoo groups when 
the owners and modeators are essentially dictators. Sometimes I think so 
aee inexperienced or something. So I hope this will go away after awhile 
and I am for being patient and not responsding to infurated email and 
hoping things calm down.  I guess I should take a peak at this stuff. I 
used to moderate/SYSOP several sorts of things and these things come up 
a lot.

Have Fun,
Sends Steve

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