full-disclosure - FAO Mark Murtagh from Websense

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Date: Sun Nov 13 21:47:24 2005
From: xploitable at gmail.com (n3td3v)
Subject: FAO Mark Murtagh from Websense

Security Researcher who reads news stories, studies hacker techniques
and trends. Also noticed that online news journalists are using the
phrase "Security Researcher" as a new name for "hackers". I am
"Security Researcher" in its true form. I don't subscirbe to online
media journalists and hackers who have hi-hacked the term security
researcher to try and hide their true status as "HACKER".

On 11/13/05, Steve Friedl <steve@...xwiz.net> wrote:
> I'm not taking any issue with your position in the security industry,
> but you're going to find that communicating poorly (including "not even
> checking for grammer") goes a long way to telling people that you don't
> wish to be taken seriously.
>
> Maybe you're a script kiddie, maybe you're a wannabe, maybe you're
> the real deal: all we can go by is what springs from your fingers,
> and everything you write says "wannabe".
>
> There are varying standards for good writing: a Quick private IM to
> a friend is at the bottom of the list, but a public, "Hey, I wrote
> this" is at the top. It's great to write with passion, and all of us
> go with the flow when it (thankfully) happens, but none of us would
> release a paper without making sure the writing looked professional.
>
> I think that handles and song lyrics are all really juvenile, but you at
> least make a pretense at trying to be a real participant in the security
> industry.
>
> The single best thing you could do for yourself and your reputation is
> to vigorously cultivate your communications skills.
>
> Steve
>
> ---
> Stephen J Friedl | Security Consultant |  UNIX Wizard  |   +1 714 544-6561
> www.unixwiz.net  | Tustin, Calif. USA  | Microsoft MVP | steve@...xwiz.net
>