full-disclosure - Spy Agency Mined Vast Data Trove

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Date: Tue Dec 27 04:11:54 2005
From: leife at dls.net (Leif Ericksen)
Subject: Spy Agency Mined Vast Data Trove

Echelon????  YAWN...  That is old news that is like 10-15 years old and
was first announce like 8-10 years ago was it not...  Encryption?  when
it comes time to NSA/CIA/Omega Sector or other unnamed government
agencies if they want to decrypt it they can...  That is my belief.

Really if we have nothing to hide we should not fear them listening to
us.  Now if they come in and start forcing a special mark or code word
or something special in order to live or buy or sell anything then it is
time to revolt.

Other wise let them hear you talk to your significant other about some
hot sexual adventure, if it is not your significant other maybe it is
your best friend and you are going to tell them about how you banged
away at this hot chick/guy (male or female for guys/gals and those of
the alternative life style (Gay, Homosexual what ever you prefer).

IF we really want to sue some good encryption that will take time to
break we all have to learn and start using some anchient now dead
language.  Then once everybody is fluent in that we need to change again
just to try and stay one step ahead of the spy devices!

--
lhe


On Mon, 2005-12-26 at 07:47 -0800, obnoxious@...h.com wrote:
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> On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:04:15 -0800 Bipin Gautam
> <gautam.bipin@...il.com> wrote:
> >hello list;
> >
> 
> >
> >My concern is... (I'm from Nepal) not all ISP in my region go
> >through
> >the Nepal's Internet exchange point. so even the local traffic
> >might
> >have routed through USA if our ISP'z backbone providr is in USA. I
> >don't have very good idea about ledal stuff but my basic
> >assumption is
> >BUYING SERVICE FROM A DIFFERENT COUNTRY DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE
> >NECESSARILY SUBJECTED TO THEIR LOCAL RULES. (though depends on
> >country
> >foreign policy)
> >
> >Have our network traffic been spyed/sniffed too without our
> >knowledge?
> >Don't we have right of protection in the law to check such thing
> if
> >any???
> >
> >just willing to hear your views on what are the rules to
> >check/tackle
> >such issues in other foreign countries???
> >
> 
> The gist of the actions by the NSA and the Chimp in Charge should
> allow to you ascertain the obvious answer. One, the US government
> has no respect for its citizens' privacy so what makes you think it
> cares about the privacies of those in other countries.
> 
> One of the problems with the US at this current point in time, is
> there is a revolving scenario being spoon fed to the public and
> this is being used to justify the actions of the idiots in office.
> This is called "The War on Terror". Far too many people are quick
> to cower and believe whatever mass media crapaganda is being shown
> on television, and while this occurs, those in power jump on the
> opportunities to sneak in low blow, sucker punch crimes in hopes
> they go unnoticed. It happened with the CIA and their torture
> prisons, the Chimp in Charge stepping on civil liberties, you name
> it, this administration is doing it.
> 
> So to answer your question, if it passed through any form of
> electronic communication, chances are ECHELON got a hold of it.
> Don't like it, don't use electronic communications, or use various
> types of encryption. Bottom line.
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