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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:23:08 -0400
From: "Fetch, Brandon" <bfetch@....com>
To: <joey.mengele@...hmail.com>, <jason@...lerinterviews.com>,
	<3apa3a@...urity.nnov.ru>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Signal to Noise Ratio

*reaches for the raincoat for the pending continued pissing match*

Anyone have waterproof popcorn?

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Joey
Mengele
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 2:15 PM
To: jason@...lerinterviews.com; 3apa3a@...urity.nnov.ru
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Signal to Noise Ratio

This is an English speaking list. Please translate.

Grow up.

J

On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:07:15 -0400 3APA3A <3APA3A@...URITY.NNOV.RU> 
wrote:
>Dear jason@...lerinterviews.com,
>
>--Tuesday, July 24, 2007, 5:02:16 PM, you wrote to full-
>disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk:
>
>jkc>   It seems to me the average SNR here could be greatly 
>improved with any
>jkc> one of several commonly available "community-based" filtering
>jkc> mechanisms.  Digg and Slashdot are both examples of what I'm 
>suggesting.
>
>This  subject  arises  here  twice  an  year.  List needs 
>_professional_
>moderation, like Bugtraq has. because:
>
>1.  Next  thing  to  research  will  be  attacks against community-
>based
>filtering mechanisms.
>
>2.  No, thanks, see enough "community moderators" things with 
>Wikipedia,
>where  sense  of  good always hits common sense. It's well known 
>who has
>high  desire  to moderate: not a professional with deep topic 
>knowledge.
>Michael   Zalewski  was  filtered  from  "hackers"  for  few  
>years  for
>self-promotion  (Was  it  Stallman  who  edited  this article or 
>15-year
>schoolboy  who  read nothing but few articles about... let me 
>remember..
>Melissa  worm?). Bad for you, Michael, you promote yourself again! 
>I was
>not  able  to  add article about free open source software, as I 
>am only
>listed software developer (I really am): it's promotion. Just 
>wonder: if
>somebody  looks for specific software in Wikipedia, is it better 
>to have
>potentially  promotional  article  from  it's  developer  or do 
>not have
>article at all?
>
>
>-- 
>~/ZARAZA http://securityvulns.com/
>
>
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