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Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 09:39:29 +1000
From: "Ivan ." <ivanhec@...il.com>
To: Daniel Clemens <daniel.clemens@...ketninjas.net>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Facebook

http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/facebook-spy.pdf
http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/facebook-spy2.pdf
http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/google-spy.pdf

http://cryptome.org/isp-spy/online-spying.htm

On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Daniel Clemens
<daniel.clemens@...ketninjas.net> wrote:
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> On May 3, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Ivan . wrote:
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>> it's the law, specifically CALEA
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act
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> This is a bit different contextually than the statement made concerning facebook etc.
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>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Javier Bassi <javierbassi@...il.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Daniel Clemens
>>> <daniel.clemens@...ketninjas.net> wrote:
>>>> Prove it!
>>>> You clearly know nothing about our legal system.
>>>
>>> You might find this links interesting
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0aQojDGSD4
>>> http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/governmentrequests/
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> My point is LEO still has to apply for a title 3 wiretap or a subpoena  which is easier since 9/11 but its not as close to the statement that was made.
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> "Google, Yahoo – all these major US organizations have built-in interfaces
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>> for US intelligence. It’s not a matter of serving a subpoena. They have an
>> interface that they have developed for US intelligence to use."
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> It really still is a matter of a subpoena, and that is my point.
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> | Daniel Uriah Clemens
> | Packetninjas L.L.C | | http://www.packetninjas.net
> | c. 205.567.6850      | | o. 866.267.8851
> "Moments of sorrow are moments of sobriety"
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