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Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 18:34:08 -0500
From: Daniel Clemens <daniel.clemens@...ketninjas.net>
To: "Ivan ." <ivanhec@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Facebook


On May 3, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Ivan . wrote:

> it's the law, specifically CALEA
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Assistance_for_Law_Enforcement_Act

This is a bit different contextually than the statement made concerning facebook etc. 

> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Javier Bassi <javierbassi@...il.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:51 PM, Daniel Clemens
>> <daniel.clemens@...ketninjas.net> wrote:
>>> Prove it!
>>> You clearly know nothing about our legal system.
>> 
>> You might find this links interesting
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0aQojDGSD4
>> http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/governmentrequests/
> 

My point is LEO still has to apply for a title 3 wiretap or a subpoena  which is easier since 9/11 but its not as close to the statement that was made. 

"Google, Yahoo – all these major US organizations have built-in interfaces
> 
> for US intelligence. It’s not a matter of serving a subpoena. They have an
> interface that they have developed for US intelligence to use."

It really still is a matter of a subpoena, and that is my point. 

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