Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 05:26:08 -0500
From: Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [OT] the nigger said: "American people
 understand that not everybody's been following the rules"

On 10/12/2011 2:44 AM, Christian Sciberras wrote:
> Regarding who's doing the most damage to US economy, I'll just say I 
> won't comment.
>
> I take issue with the 1%/99% idea; ie, the excuse that some people 
> deserve more just because they are allowed to lie - even if it makes 
> them hypocrites.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Jeffrey Walton <noloader@...il.com 
> <mailto:noloader@...il.com>> wrote:
>
>     On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:51 AM, Christian Sciberras
>     <uuf6429@...il.com <mailto:uuf6429@...il.com>> wrote:
>     > Darren's and indeed many other people's lame excuse is that
>     they're too
>     > humble to be greedy. As if!
>     Its not about greed - pursuit of wealth is fine. You just can't harm
>     others while doing it. (Well, apparently you can in the US).
>
>     One of the funniest things I ever read regarding Bin Laden's little
>     war was a boycott of the US dollar to reduce reliance [on the dollar]
>     and to harm the US economy [1].
>
>     Thought experiment: terrorist wanted to ruin the US economy. US
>     Financial institutions threw the US (and world) economy into a
>     recession (again). The US financial institutions responsible must be
>     terrorist organizations.
>
>     Thank {insert higher being here} that Bin Laden did not make a PAC
>     contribution on 9/10.
>
>     Jeff
>
>     [1] http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/30/world/middleeast/30binladen.html
>
>
>     > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Jeffrey Walton
>     <noloader@...il.com <mailto:noloader@...il.com>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Darren Martyn
>     >> <d.martyn.fulldisclosure@...il.com
>     <mailto:d.martyn.fulldisclosure@...il.com>> wrote:
>     >> > Chris - Empathy, guilt, and morals. Guilt being a major
>     factor. The
>     >> > possibility was always there to make millions via evil means,
>     but morals
>     >> > and
>     >> > knowing it would be hard to live with.
>     >> >
>     >> > The problem is not getting lots of money. That is the easy
>     part. The
>     >> > issue
>     >> > is with living with yourself afterward.
>     >> How about illegal? Check out the Hobbs Act [1]. I'm not making this
>     >> crap up - the US has laws on the books for negatively affecting
>     >> commerce (which the crash did), and using fear to peddle their
>     warez
>     >> (how financial institutions market their instruments). There's
>     >> probably provisions in the PATRIOT Act, too.
>     >>
>     >> The last tine I checked (about a year ago), the SEC had opened
>     fewer
>     >> than 100 civil investigations. No criminal investigations,
>     despite the
>     >> fact that some of the financial institutions created spurious
>     ratings
>     >> companies just to rate their instruments 'good'.
>     >>
>     >> Jeff
>     >>
>     >> [1]
>     >>
>     http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/131mcrm.htm
>     >>
>     >> [SNIP]
>
>
>
>
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Im just going to leave this here 
http://www.businessinsider.com/what-wall-street-protesters-are-so-angry-about-2011-10?op=1 


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