Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 12:13:33 +0200
From: Omar Benbouazza <bvomar@...il.com>
To: noloader@...il.com
Cc: Full Disclosure <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Mavericks...less then a bargin?

Jeff, trust in The Guardian :P

Regards,

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2013/10/28 Jeffrey Walton <noloader@...il.com>

> On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Joel Esler <joel.esler@...com> wrote:
> > Obviously they expect you to surrender the info in the sake of simplicity
> > and usefulness.
> >
> > They swear the can't read your stuff:
> > http://www.apple.com/apples-commitment-to-customer-privacy/
> :)
>
> Their own legal department tells us they are not trustworthy. Who do
> we believe: their legal department, or their press release?
>
> Jeff
>
>
> > On Oct 28, 2013, at 03:30 PM, PuNkErX w <punk3rx@...mail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I usually lurk the list but here's my take on it.  Using iCloud to sync
> > everything is stupid if you care about privacy.  Unless you don't mind
> all
> > your info (especially now that you can sync the keychain....) being out
> > there.
> >
> > As an old Apple "fanboy" Im disgusted but not surprised with the
> direction
> > they went.  Thats why i got out of the Apple work when 10.7 dropped.
> >
> > I host an old macbook with 10.6 server that has iCal and address book
> > services to sync stuff between 10.9 laptop, 10.6 laptop, iphone and ipad.
> > It works for what i need but obviously it isnt for everyone.
> >
> > Im looking at other alternatives for all in one type deals but it seems
> > every "cloud" service pretty much sells your info in one shape way or
> form.
> >
> > So you dont need to use icloud at all but it appears you will need a
> third
> > party server to sync stuff.  Yet another step back asswards for the
> > industry.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Oct 28, 2013, at 10:43, silence_is_best@...hmail.com wrote:
> >
> > The functionality of syncing contacts/calendar is MISSING in
> > iTunes...gone...poof...Casper...out of luck....plug in your iDevice on
> the
> > latest, then check it out...you can sync photos and music, but nothing
> > else...it's a bad scene.
> >
> > On Monday, October 28, 2013 at 8:34 AM, "Joel Esler" <joel.esler@...com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > What happens when you refuse to sign up for iCloud?
> >
> > <sent from my iCloud account>
> >
> > --
> > Joel Esler
> >
> >
> > On Oct 28, 2013, at 08:09 AM, silence_is_best@...hmail.com wrote:
> >
> > A warning (disclosure) to you Apple people....if you're planning to sync
> > your shiny iDevice with Mavericks, you will be FORCED to use iCloud
> (syncing
> > from your iDevice to your iPuter is now gone).  I suspect this is one of
> the
> > reasons why Mavericks was a "free" upgrade.  Apple probably figured the
> $40
> > they'd get from the sale of the OS is less then when they'd get with have
> > your calendar and your contacts within easy reach.  Per their policy:
> >
> > What personal information we collect
> >
> > When you create an Apple ID, register your products, apply for commercial
> > credit, purchase a product, download a software update, register for a
> class
> > at an Apple Retail Store, or participate in an online survey, we may
> collect
> > a variety of information, including your name, mailing address, phone
> > number, email address, contact preferences, and credit card information.
> >
> > When you share your content with family and friends using Apple products,
> > send gift certificates and products, or invite others to join you on
> Apple
> > forums, Apple may collect the information you provide about those people
> > such as name, mailing address, email address, and phone number.
> >
> >
> > How we use your personal information
> >
> > The personal information we collect allows us to keep you posted on
> Apple’s
> > latest product announcements, software updates, and upcoming events. It
> also
> > helps us to improve our services, content, and advertising.
> >
> >
> > Nice not to have choices ;)
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