linux-kernel - Re: Wasting our Freedom

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Date:	Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:47:03 +0300
From:	"Denis Doroshenko" <denis.doroshenko@...il.com>
To:	"Theodore Tso" <tytso@....edu>, misc@...nbsd.org,
	"Adrian Bunk" <bunk@...nel.org>,
	"Can E. Acar" <can.acar@...-g.com.tr>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	"Daniel Hazelton" <dhazelton@...er.net>,
	"Eben Moglen" <moglen@...twarefreedom.org>,
	"Lawrence Lessig" <lessig_from_web@...ox.com>,
	"Bradley M. Kuhn" <bkuhn@...twarefreedom.org>,
	"Matt Norwood" <norwood@...twarefreedom.org>
Subject: Re: Wasting our Freedom

On 9/18/07, Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 06:29:48AM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> > Now if they'd fix the copyright message to only mention Reyk all would
> > be good.
>
> It *does* mention Reyk, if you would bother to look.  The thing which
> Theo is kvetching about, and which apparently is enough to cause the
> *BSD zombies to start attacking without actually _checking_ _for_
> _themselves_ is whether or not Jiri and Nick did enough to work so
> they should have their names listed in the headers.

and did they really do enough? if those names shouldn't be there, why
play childish games and insist on putting them in?

>  In other words,
> all of the megabytes and megabhytes of flamewar is over these two
> lines:
>
> > * Copyright (c) 2006-2007 Nick Kossifidis <mickflemm@...il.com>
> > * Copyright (c) 2007 Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@...il.com>
>
> Petty, isn't it?

and what so petty is there? who can show what those two added to the
original work so that according to the law they are allowed to put
their names in there?

>  Let's just say it's b.s. like this which is why, 16
> years ago, I decided to work with Linux instead of BSD.

and who really cares about why you did this or did that? this OT
sentence sounded like real childish BC. if you want to have fun while
coding and share it with others - do it, if you want also to play
contract games - do it; choose BSD or GPL and go with it. however,
whatever you do you must respect laws. if the law says you can put
your name in only if much of work is done, so it must be. there are no
other variants. and everything will come back to you no matter whether
it is good or bad. if you ignore laws using somebody's work, the same
will be done to you one day.

>                                                 - Ted

> P.S.  And yes, before those two lines is:
>
> > * Copyright (c) 2004-2007 Reyk Floeter <reyk@...nbsd.org>
>
> and after those two lines is the BSD permission notice.

P.S. Let's just say that BC like that is why I decided to work with
BSD instead of Linux 11 years ago.
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