linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v6 00/15] memory-hotplug: hot-remove physical memory

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Date:	Thu, 31 Jan 2013 20:17:20 -0600
From:	Simon Jeons <simon.jeons@...il.com>
To:	Tang Chen <tangchen@...fujitsu.com>
Cc:	Jianguo Wu <wujianguo@...wei.com>, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 00/15] memory-hotplug: hot-remove physical memory

Hi Tang,
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 09:57 +0800, Tang Chen wrote:
> On 02/01/2013 09:36 AM, Simon Jeons wrote:
> > On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 09:32 +0800, Jianguo Wu wrote:
> >>>
> >>> So if config NUMA, kernel memory will not be linear mapping anymore? For
> >>> example,
> >>>
> >>> Node 0  Node 1
> >>>
> >>> 0 ~ 10G 11G~14G
> 
> It has nothing to do with linear mapping, I think.
> 
> >>>
> >>> kernel memory only at Node 0? Can part of kernel memory also at Node 1?
> 
> Please refer to find_zone_movable_pfns_for_nodes().

I see, thanks. :)

> The kernel is not only on node0. It uses all the online nodes evenly. :)
> 
> >>>
> >>> How big is kernel direct mapping memory in x86_64? Is there max limit?
> >>
> >>
> >> Max kernel direct mapping memory in x86_64 is 64TB.
> >
> > For example, I have 8G memory, all of them will be direct mapping for
> > kernel? then userspace memory allocated from where?
> 
> I think you misunderstood what Wu tried to say. :)
> 
> The kernel mapped that large space, it doesn't mean it is using that 
> large space.
> The mapping is to make kernel be able to access all the memory, not for 
> the kernel
> to use only. User space can also use the memory, but each process has 
> its own mapping.
> 
> For example:
> 
>                                         64TB, what ever 
>     xxxTB, what ever
> logic address space:     |_____kernel_______|_________user_________________|
>                                         \  \  /  /
>                                          \  /\  /
> physical address space:              |___\/__\/_____________|  4GB or 
> 8GB, what ever
>                                            *****

How much address space user process can have on x86_64? Also 8GB?

> 
> The ***** part physical is mapped to user space in the process' own 
> pagetable.
> It is also direct mapped in kernel's pagetable. So the kernel can also 
> access it. :)

But how to protect user process not modify kernel memory?

> 
> >
> >>
> >>> It seems that only around 896MB on x86_32.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> We need firmware take part in, such as SRAT in ACPI BIOS, or the firmware
> >>>> based memory migration mentioned by Liu Jiang.
> >>>
> >>> Is there any material about firmware based memory migration?
> 
> No, I don't have any because this is a functionality of machine from HUAWEI.
> I think you can ask Liu Jiang or Wu Jianguo to share some with you. :)
> 
> Thanks. :)


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