netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next 0/4] net: switchdev: Avoid sleep in atomic with DSA

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Date:   Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:25:06 +0200
From:   Ido Schimmel <idosch@...sch.org>
To:     Jiri Pirko <jiri@...nulli.us>
Cc:     Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        davem@...emloft.net, vivien.didelot@...oirfairelinux.com,
        andrew@...n.ch
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/4] net: switchdev: Avoid sleep in atomic with
 DSA

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 01:08:46PM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 10:14:36PM CET, idosch@...sch.org wrote:
> >On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 12:56:48PM -0800, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> >> On 01/09/2017 12:48 PM, Ido Schimmel wrote:
> >> > Hi Florian,
> >> > 
> >> > On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 11:44:59AM -0800, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> >> >> Hi all,
> >> >>
> >> >> This patch series is to resolve a sleeping function called in atomic context
> >> >> debug splat that we observe with DSA.
> >> >>
> >> >> Let me know what you think, I was also wondering if we should just always
> >> >> make switchdev_port_vlan_fill() set SWITCHDEV_F_DEFER, but was afraid this
> >> >> could cause invalid contexts to be used for rocker, mlxsw, i40e etc.
> >> > 
> >> > Isn't this a bit of overkill? All the drivers you mention fill the VLAN
> >> > dump from their cache and don't require sleeping. Even b53 that you
> >> > mention in the last patch does that, but reads the PVID from the device,
> >> > which entails taking a mutex.
> >> 
> >> Correct.
> >> 
> >> > 
> >> > Can't you just cache the PVID as well? I think this will solve your
> >> > problem. Didn't look too much into the b53 code, so maybe I'm missing
> >> > something. Seems that mv88e6xxx has a similar problem.
> >> 
> >> I suppose we could indeed cache the PVID for b53, but for mv88e6xxx it
> >> seems like we need to perform a bunch of VTU operations, and those
> >> access HW registers, Andrew, Vivien, how do you want to solve that, do
> >> we want to introduce a general VLAN cache somewhere in switchdev/DSA/driver?
> >
> >Truth be told, I don't quite understand why switchdev infra even tries
> >to dump the VLANs from the device. Like, in which situations is this
> >going to be different from what the software bridge reports? Sure, you
> >can set the VLAN filters with SELF and skip the software bridge, but how
> >does that make sense in a model where you want to reflect the software
> >datapath?
> 
> But the vlans added by rtnl_bridge_setlink & SELF are not tracked by the
> bridge and therefore driver needs to dump them. You would have to pass
> some flag down to driver when adding SWITCHDEV_OBJ_ID_PORT_VLAN
> indicating the need to track the vlan and dump it. Right?

Right, but back to my question - what's the use case for the SELF flag
in the switchdev model? Why would I configure a VLAN filter in the
hardware but not in the software bridge? The whole point is reflecting
the software bridge to the hardware.